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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Kaplya@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Both parties start the killing at the same time, one is just more enthusiastic about it. Bidens border policy is worse than the previous one, he's put more kids in cages, deported more and given more money to the cops. I struggle to think of a measure where he does less than the previous administration. Pretending like it's "stagnation or murder" rather than "murder or murder" is folly.

On top of that voting for Biden is once again legitimising the "vote for the lesser evil" ideology that had brought us to this point. Every election the lesser evil takes the position of the evil of the previous election. Now "the lesser evil" is commiting genocide. Voting for Biden legitimises genocide, makes it so that's no longer a step too far. What do you think the democrats will do, if they get elected on a platform of "we don't care about genocide"?

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