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This is literally just the r/nyt subreddit about The New York Times.

Given he apparently takes inspiration from Elon Musk, it's only a matter of time until u/spez starts adding post view limits unless you pay extra.

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[-] Kofu@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Hear me out.

Elon destroys twitter and eventually makes it a joke and no one can be trusted cause the process of verification for that is a joke now.

Spez destroys reddit. Shuts down 3rd party apps. The majority of people have to decided whether to stay or leave.

The SAG and WGA go on strike because of wage issues, now shows like Last Week Tonight and other shows that take deep dives into the problems of government can't make shows that inform people.

All of this is, in my opinion, to shut down public conversations about many issues and the timing is also coincidental since the 2024 election is coming up and in a time everyone is divided, there is no comfortable place to communicate. The curiosity is if trumps social media and other right leaning communities are facing the same disruptions. Not saying reddit and twitter are bastions of the "left" but twitter and in particular reddit have been a place for public good. Now twitter is a hallway that is almost completely covered in fecal matter and reddit is a poorly designed website that blinds you with advertisements and OF spam bots.

Elon I can see doing it maliciously, because he benefits from a Republican government. Edge Lord Jr has probably doing it because Senior told him it was a good idea. The survivability of these companies are not in their interest because why care if you can just close it down claim the sale and go make more money somewhere else.

But the biggest one is the "Late Night" shows. Most of them are the way some Americans get informed about some of the more deeply rooted problems in America. You can look at shows like John Olivers, Last Week Tonight and maybe Late Night with Seth Meyers. Shows very critical of Republicans and trump in particular, completely crippled by the SAG and WGA strikes.

In total the information delivery systems we are all used too, have been dirupted and I'm seriously questioned its timing.

[-] Zormat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 year ago

You think the writer's strike is part of a conspiracy to prop up Republicans for an election in a year and a half?

[-] Kofu@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

No, I'm saying the people that control their wages have been slowly moving towards the point of protest so the shows they write for don't air because they are fighting a noble battle against shitty wages.

[-] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Seems more simple and likely to me that the "normal" corrupt and crony capitalism we've allowed to take over our government and big businesses is just reaching even more for the next dollar, like they always do. Although the leadership at Twitter and Reddit seems particularly bad, maybe because their product would appear even more unsustainable with proper transparency.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's true that capitalism and public interest are generally incompatible. Though this seems a bit more nefarious, considering that actions at both Twitter and Reddit have only continued to devalue these institutions, no?

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, though. America will escape this rut when people realize it's Big Cor'prit that we should be afraid of and not so much Big Guv'mint; the former is a virus that corrupts the body. And the immune system (checks-and-balances, separation of powers, etc.) have largely failed.

[-] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can't speak for Twitter, but from a shortsighted business standpoint, the third party Reddit apps weren't generating any revenue for Reddit, and were shut down to drive more traffic to the ad-filled app

[-] ghostBones@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

From my readings in the last few weeks, there does seem to be some sort of coordinated effort to control public messaging. There was/is a discussion about how the right wing is suing and chilling any and all efforts to expose and educate about disinformation. The lawsuits were so menacing that they even wanted to go after the students of the classes run by professors they were suing for teaching about present day disinformation in our society. It isn't just professors, it includes writers and journalists and groups that targeted disinformation. This is being done under the banner of 'bias'. Opposing, criticizing, or pushing back against far right wing messaging is attacked and sued as intolerable bias.

It's believed that this is to clear the way for a massive onslaught of disinformation and conspiracy theories entering into the 2024 election cycle. As far as what's happening to some social media sites, the timing is suspect. Reddit and Twitter were among the most effective at getting out the blue vote. Now they are in shambles.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Glad I'm not the only one considering this. Been in conversation with another long-time user of Reddit (>15 years) and let's just say that if the goal was to suppress grassroots mobilization of progressive coalition, this is what you would do. We already know how compromised the likes of Musk, Zuckerberg are... And we saw just how much we had to pull the teeth of Reddit to do something about The_Donald...

I often wonder if Trump would have been elected in 2016 if Jon Stewart was still on the air. Now imagine if right-wing groups controlled Reddit, Twitter, and clamped down on all late-night talk shows that help pierce right-wing ignorance chambers of this country.

[-] Kofu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'm glad I'm not alone either. I'm thinking he could of swayed the independent voters who were confused but, to be honest things have changed in such a crazy weird way, I don't think it would of mattred. His faithful friend John Oliver was doing his absolute best but the message fell between the mass noise brought on by the maga crowd.

Some people suffer from reddit nostalgia and forget some of the most disgusting subs and activity during the early days was common place but as time went on it rooted them out and forged a better sense of community. Then trump emboldened idiots to be idiots and cultists obey their leader. Questionable people bought up share and spez suffered a stroke after Elon gave him the boner after telling him how much power he has.

[-] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Twitter was ruined for the reasons you state, but thinking it was for the west is untrue. One of the biggest investors was the Saudi king, a ruler in an area where Twitter was used to organize actual revolts and revolutions. The destruction of social media is definitely being done in prep for elections. The strikes seem like coincidences as far as the election goes.

[-] Kofu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Buy it, kill it. 44 bill is chump change to the

Many people benefit from its downfall, its not exclusively to the election i just used it because I live in the "west" and I can see it disrupting a very critical election because 4 more years has of trump is gonna be bad for everyone....

[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the reason is something much bigger than the American election. Just not sure what yet.

The election is rigged anyway. Choose between turd and asshole, both of which are selected by the establishment.

Until people can vote with cryptographically safe identity control, there is no reason to trust manual vote counting in my opinion.

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

No, it's a choice between an orange fascist traitor, and freedom, democracy and decency.

And nice job spreading twitlers "big lie" about the election. People like you are the enemies of democracy.

[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Enemies of Democracy" :) That's a nice one. I want the membership card!

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

You got it. It'll earn you a place in history, on the wrong side.

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