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submitted 3 months ago by barsoap@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

A new paper suggests diminishing returns from larger and larger generative AI models. Dr Mike Pound discusses.

The Paper (No "Zero-Shot" Without Exponential Data): https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.04125

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[-] chrash0@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

“we don’t know how” != “it’s not possible”

i think OpenAI more than anyone knows the challenges with scaling data and training. anyone working on AI knows the line: “a baby can learn to recognize elephants from a single instance”. reducing training data and time is fundamental to advancement. don’t get me wrong, it’s great to put numbers to these things. i just don’t think this paper is super groundbreaking or profound. a bit clickbaity and sensational for Computerphile

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

...and a baby doesn't use the same architecture, not even close, as generative AIs. Babies are T3 systems, they aren't simply systems which have rules on how to learn, they are systems which have rules on how to develop learning strategies that they then use to learn.

I'm not doubting, in the slightest, that AI can't get there: It's definitely possible. It's just not possible with the current approaches, and the iterative refinements that "oh OpenAI is constantly coming up with new topologies" refers to is just more of the same. Show me a topology that can come up with topologies, then we'll have a chance to break through the need for exponential amounts of data.

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