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[-] 5SpeedDeasil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

As an English speaker, trust me you don’t wanna know. Don’t dive into it

[-] UserDoesNotExist@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Well, since there is just one word in German for sex and gender, it’s the same thing here, some people try to use the English word gender (untranslated) here.

But I simply don’t understand why this is needed. It’s getting so mixed up and complicated, but at the same time it barely has any relevance. Because what does it add to society, dialogue or communication? German is a very precise language, and I don’t understand why some people try to soften it up with the English term of gender. It’s so weird.

[-] 5SpeedDeasil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’m pretty sure alot of people use it interchangeably to mean the same thing. But I think over the years, gender has become more of a “social” word and Sex as more of a “biological” word. I say Gender instead of sex when talking about someone’s biology. A bit confusing honestly for non-native English speakers

[-] oox@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

This:

I think over the years, gender has become more of a “social” word and Sex as more of a “biological” word.

Seems at odds with:

I say Gender instead of sex when talking about someone’s biology.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I caught that too but I think they just sort of lost track mid thought and switched it without realizing.

[-] UserDoesNotExist@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Yes, it’s confusing. I think I somewhat have an understanding of what the term “gender” refers to, it at the same time it is so untranscribable and somewhat extremely vague.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why? It's the same thing as race.

[-] UserDoesNotExist@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

No it cannot be.

Race is a biologically misleading term. There is just one human race alive on this planet and it’s called Homo sapiens sapiens.

What English speakers are referring to as race is actually ethnicity.

The genetic variations between humans from different continents is far too little to make out different races. There are no clear borders between one “race” to another.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You missed the point. Race is a social construct, as is gender

Yes, I understood you the first time, but what does social construct mean?

Another race, that’s what humans deem too different from themselves to consider them equal. (Even though there are not enough genetic differences to qualify for an actual different race). But these differences are physical and not socially constructed.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Neurological differences between men and women aren't socially constructed any more than racial characteristics are. You should read up on the neurology of trans and cis people.

Alright. I get what trans people are. Those are people that attempt to transition their physical features from their born sex to the opposite sex.

But what do you mean with cis people? Do you mean normal, or generic, or average?

I only know the terms cis and trans primarily from chemistry, even though those are old nomenclature.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Alright. I get what trans people are. Those are people that attempt to transition their physical features from their born sex to the opposite sex.

No. It's people whose gender doesn't match their sex. Has nothing to do with transitioning

Cis is the opposite of trans

So people that do not transition could still be transgender?

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Can people who are celibate be gay?

Well. Yes and no. It’s kind of a schroedinger situation. Celibate people are straight and gay at the same time.

Jokes aside. Sexuality is an attraction. It’s kind of different to trans.

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