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The police need this for...? (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago by Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world

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[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

They're specifically not to be used on roads because they don't fit, rollover if sneezed at and destroy our roads but fuck it they're police right?

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 26 points 6 months ago

What are you talking about, that would fit perfectly parked in the bike lane

[-] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

I dunno, it might have to “monster truck” its way over all the other motor vehicles already parked in the bike lane.

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

I'm confused about the design. If it's designed for mountain areas but is top heavy and rolls easy, isn't that a major design floor for an area where the terrain is likely to be steep from left to right in parts?

Maybe my idea of terrain in mountainous areas is wrong.

[-] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

It's designed to stay on roads.
Those roads are natural choke points where bombs are often hidden on the ground, which results in a high and heavy design.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

MATV begs to differ. We always had the technology. We just wanted a cheap solution to stop taking so many casualties.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Correct, they move slow but they are quite explosion survivable past the original design.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

You have correctly identified one of many reasons the military hated these.

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Tall but narrower than other options while having survivability in case of getting IED'd. I know HMMWVs are actually big but the MRAPs didn't all have a much larger footprint.

Fun fact though, they had to add a gunners harness because the gunners were more likely to die in a roll over. Armored plates all up over your back but you get crushed because the Specialist driving hasn't even driven anything bigger than his Civic and doesn't have enough hours dealing with actual Afghan roads.

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Hey, you can easily get them up to 50mph on an airfield runway and feel the death rattle telling you to slow down. It's basically all operator error.

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