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Manjaro or Pop!_OS for (Nvidia) gaming on Steam?
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Most of the Manjaro criticism is pure nonsense. It's one of the most used distros in the Steam Survey. Anybody who's willing to recommend Arch or Pop or Mint (who are also in the top of the Survey) but not Manjaro needs a reality check.
Just because it's wildly used it doesn't mean it's the best, otherwise you'd be suggesting OP to install Windows 10.
Manjaro has several legit criticism. Maybe they're not important to you, but they are still legit and relevant points to make. Personally, I ended up going with an Arch derivative that uses the official arch repos. Everything else you like in Manjaro can be easily installed.
That page is not legit criticism, it's a bunch of nonsense. It misrepresents what Manjaro does, outright lying in some cases, it fails to understand how package updates and AUR work, it glosses over the fact that Manjaro helped the AUR infrastructure. It's prejudiced information made out specifically to make it look bad.
It's not nonsense, just concerns that you don't seem to have. Which is fine, really. If Manjaro is perfect for you, keep using it. No judging here.
I personally don't like Manjaro holding out on package updates, Arch stable branch is more than good enough for me. Everything else can be easily installed if you want to. Therefore, there's really no reason for me personally to recommend Manjaro.
There is not one pertinent criticism in there. It's all meaningless drivel presented as legit concerns.
Which one is a concern you share?
Then you don't use it and that's fine. The whole point of Manjaro is to mitigate the bleeding edge risk. There's tons of people who see value in that. Not every distro has to do the exact same thing Arch does. There is something of value in every Arch-derived distro.
My main concern is trust. How can I trust that the Manjaro team is competent when they can't keep up with something as simple as certificates. You say they helped the AUR but they actually DDOS'd it several times due to problems in
pamac
the software store they developed. By using Manjaro, you are saying that you trust the Manjaro team more than the Arch team, since you are using their repositories. Their actions do not inspire trust on me.Arch actually has an unstable branch, that is "bleeding edge". Most people run Arch on the stable branch, which is perfectly fine. You can run into problems, but so far I have never encountered any. Holding packages for "stability" is a neat idea but if the Firefox and Arch team deemed the new browser version to be stable, that's good enough for me. I don't see the Manjaro devs as having more competence to judge such things than the Arch community and the software devs.
This is a pointless discussion anyway, I'm not changing my mind and neither are you but all least now you know where I'm coming from. Cheers.
Every single large enough distro (and any organization) has at some point forgot to renew a certificate. How were you impacted by the expiration?
The AUR was not originally designed to whitstand any meaningful traffic. What you call "DDOS" was simply the AUR being used by an actually popular distro, where enabling the AUR is a simple UI toggle, whose developers never imagined that the AUR doesn't have any traffic mitigation methods.
So Manjaro went out of its way to look for contributors to sponsor an AUR CDN and several caching layers, improving things for everybody.
The second "DDOS" happened after Manjaro implemented all of the above so it couldn't have come from Manjaro machines. All the "proof" is that whoever hit the AUR used a "pamac" user agent... which anybody can do.
Manjaro's extra testing and vetting of Arch "stable" packages has avoided several problems so far.
Yes well the difference is that I've used both and can explain their pros and cons and why one suits me better. I don't just read a page called "archno" and then parrot it.
Can you point out exactly what is misrepresented and lies?