115
If Trump Wins
(www.nytimes.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2024
115 points (90.8% liked)
politics
18608 readers
3414 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
People keep acting like if we defeat him this election we are safe. Trump isn't the mastermind behind all these horrible policy changes. He didn't write "Project 2025". He is just the populist figurehead. The GOP has gone off the deepend and very election cycle will just be another chance for them to implement their BS. In the mean time congress will delay progress until they get their chance in the WH again.
The difference is republican voters gargle his balls to an extent I've never seen, not even with Regan. The whole thing about being able to shoot someone on fifth avenue might be the truest thing he's ever said.
What this means is, with the help of a willing Congress he can do anything. Even things previous republican presidents couldn't without losing support for themselves and their lackeys in Congress. Republicans in purple districts couldn't pass just anything and expect to get reelected, but with Trump taking the lead you hardly even hear about individual representatives so they're willing to vote for some crazy shit.
He can feed them shit and call it caviar all day, every day. Republican voters will eat it up and never question it no matter how much it harms them.
Republicans always do this to some extent, but usually there is a limit.
Trump has no limits.
I disagree: it took me years, but finally I understood that it'll take him a few years to go from "I'm dictator" to "I'M DICTATOR".
That process is an identity-remaking.
There will be literal human-sacrifice after a few years, but not at the beginning.
I hope I'm wrong, but .. certain I'm right, on this point.
_ /\ _
I agree it will take him some time, maybe not quite as much as you think, but my point was I don't think anyone else could even get there. Even Regan had limits in what the faithful would put up with, he wasn't teflon. But no matter what Trump does, the MAGAts will support him and the moderate republicans, if there is such a thing anymore, will go along to avoid earning their wrath.
There is only one caveat I can think of. Trump can do anything without losing MAGAt support, but he can't say anything. There have been scattered instances of Trump saying something that deviated from the MAGA ethos and actually getting booed. He can still do the things that would get him booed but say he's doing the exact opposite and those morons will never question it. He just has to keep assuring his cult he's hurting the people they hate.
As long as he keeps tossing red meat to those hateful scumbags by abusing our most vulnerable fellow citizens and increasing oppressive efforts on other groups they hate, they will cheer any and every thing he does even as they're being herded into forced labor ghettos.