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Nearly two in five (37 percent) managers, directors, and executives believe their organization enacted layoffs in the last year because fewer employees than they expected quit during their RTO. And their beliefs are well-founded: One in four (25 percent) VP and C-suite executives and one in five (18 percent) HR pros admit they hoped for some voluntary turnover during an RTO.

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[-] poo@lemmy.world 191 points 1 month ago

Joke's on them, I quit my 11-year job with a company enacting RTO and it fucked them over because I had no backups and very little cross training my entire time there. Ex-employees have told me things went to shit after I left. Good. 😂

[-] Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works 101 points 1 month ago

Offer to come back as a consultant for 2x your previous pay

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 93 points 1 month ago

With work-from-home as a non-negotiable condition.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 32 points 1 month ago

As a contractor, your client isn’t allowed to dictate your work methods. It’s one of the things the IRS looks at when identifying misclassified employees.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

While true, it's a bit more nuanced than that. They can absolutely have requirements in the contract that will put you on site. For instance, they can have you being the one to set up the conference room for the morning meeting. They can also categorically say that their VPN access is only for FTEs.

But as an independent business negotiating a contract, you just haggle these terms away. It's still a good idea to document expectations, including work hours and locations.

[-] poo@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Funnily enough I heard that internally they were talking about asking to have me come back as a contractor (with insane pay) but I was so much enjoying my time away from such a toxic company that nothing could make me return. I took a 7-month staycation after quitting just to unfuck how much they fucked up my brain, self-worth, and anxiety

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago

i dunno, grinding for a few years on contractors income and funneling it all into a pension sounds like a pretty good way of retiring early.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 34 points 1 month ago

5x pay. Independent LLCs have all sorts of expenses, including taxes/marketing/accounting/etc.

[-] realbadat@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago
[-] ChanSecodina@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

So much this. Health insurance is the primary reason I have a salaried position.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yep. I've done exactly that. Something overlooked a lot of places is to actually start an LLC (it does cost a bit, especially if you're strapped) if you can because that protects you. If you screw something up by accident a company can either come after you personally or the business that employs you.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Simply having an LLC isn't enough- it's the separation of personal and business that enables protection. Until you have other employees, this is really hard to do/show.

If you're going to go this route, you should probably talk to an attorney anyway.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And an accountant, but yeah this is solid advice. It was definitely something I knew but didn't realize that it's harder than it looks back when I did it.

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