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Vladimir Putin issues fresh demands to Ukraine to end war
(www.theguardian.com)
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I appreciate that this is a little closer to an objective, but it doesn't seem serious or coherent.
For instance, why not fully commit? Why not give Zalinsky full permission to do whatever he wants? Why not let him strike Moscow? Why not threaten Moscow with a direct American attack?
Are we willing to collapse the country or not? Are we committed to doing whatever it takes to ensure a complete victory for Ukraine or not?
People act as though anyone who discusses limits to assistance is a traitor to our ally like we haven't already been placing huge limits on our assistance, and like they themselves aren't all opposed to actually doing the things I think it would take to win.
Why are my limits a traitorous betrayal and Joe Biden's limits courageous support of an ally when it's not clear that there's a meaningful difference in the outcome of the war?
Oh, don't worry, there will be full permission. In a few weeks, and it will be without headlines.
Is this based on anything? I don't know if this is meant to be taken literally, or if this is some kind of coded reference.
I feel like that would garner headlines.
It's not.
The red line was placed by US itself as a response to Russia threatening using nuclear weapons if Ukraine gets any help.
Russia of course didn't, but adopted that red line itself and used it on its propaganda.
As they started offensive on Kharkiv, and started bombing Ukraine from behind the border so Ukraine wouldn't be able to respond, they essentially forced change of that red line.
US allowed to use of its weapons in that area.
Now the problem for Russia is:
This means Russia (including maga politicians) once it stops with this sabre rattling, won't really have much way to use propaganda about future changes.
The agreement being secret will also allow to be modified without much headlines. We will only learn after the fact. For example Russia reporting they saw fragments of US weapons in different areas. Most won't care anymore.
That is very, very interesting. I thought you were just being cryptic, but I'm really glad I asked for clarity, because this was super informative. Thank you.