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@amunizp @Linux4Everyone @linux
It has at least two USB ports: one even 3.1, if I remember correctly.
Yes, re/ #LibreOffice and #OfficeOnline - no re/ compatibility and performance.
Excellent.
Just cleaned a stick. Will try your 1st suggestion now.
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I am going for the most recommended https://etcher.balena.io
ETCHER FOR LINUX X64 (64-BIT) (APPIMAGE)
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X64
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@amunizp
ok, at stick of at least 12 GB is required. Had to switch.
Also, OMENs are not certified for #Ubuntu, will try anyway:
https://activism.openworlds.info/@barb/110511082893469616
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@amunizp
Once you realize, that you need to select the #Etcher version for the host system, not the target #OS you want to install, it is all great. - Already at 20% of #Ubuntu on the #USB stick.
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@amunizp
Ok. The installation on the stick is completed.
I put the stick in the target system (HP) and did not mess with any further settings, but pressed Try Ubuntu (first option).
Then, I selected the colorful (:)) option "Try Ubuntu" (without installation)
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@amunizp
The system did start and looks sort of like a windows 1.0 desktop, but in white on bright yellow, almost unreadable.
Thoughts?
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@amunizp
Was able to power down the system using the #ApplicationLauncherSearch, but the color settings need to be fixed.
https://vitux.com/3-ways-to-shut-down-power-off-your-ubuntu-system/
Does this have to be done via BIOS settings before booting? Once the system starts, I can hardly see a thing, got lucky with the launcher.
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@amunizp @Linux4Everyone @linux
Too bad, as I was thinking, #BIOS errors with the #Ubuntu #Linux #bootstick.
Any 💡 ideas which settings would need to be changed?
@HistoPol
https://www.infofuge.com/hp-omen-17-ubuntu/
Not an HP owner or user. So Googled, and it seems the process is straightforward.
#linuxmint builds on #ubuntu, and is a leading install and forget distribution which is also a good starting point for newcomers.
That said, not clear on how you got the BIOS errors. Could you walkthrough to it please?
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@vipaal
Not sure if I understood everything. I created the USB bootstick with the latest 5yr "warranty" versión.
Then, I reebooted and selected the 1st option: start or install.
I then selected boot from USB.
Then I got the BIOS Error screen for some second.
After that, the yellow screen from the UEL below, but with white instead of green.
Note: I've never seen a working #Linux desktop.
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@HistoPol
Ubuntu is asking to enable sgx, which can be done as explained in the answers here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1406760/sgx-disabled-by-bios-in-ubuntu-22-04
Enter BIOS, go to security section, set the Intel software guard extension option to enabled -- from the top voted answer
The accepted answer explains a workaround. The catch being that watching 4K Blu-ray will be impossible.
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@vipaal
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Sooo...,
I have succeeded in using your "SGX to "enable" pretty quickly.
Still, same errors and the yellow UBUNTU.
I then saw that there is another boot option with "safe graphics", which I used. And (partial) "bingo": I finally got a boot, but still the same disturbing BIOS errors.
The System then booted in a "safe mode" with 1024x768 resolution.
I found where I could (theoretically) change this, but as it is "safe mode"--...
@amunizp @Linux4Everyone @linux
@vipaal
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...-no changes possible.
I then Powered Off the system and it hung in several error lines. - Too risky for me and the 1024x768 is unusable nowadays.
So, final verdict: OMEN is incompatible with UBUNTU, at least.
Also, I tried to use the Boot Stick on my old ASUS. I did add the USBdrive as 1st boot priority. However, the Laptop does not recognize any bootable OS at all.
I therefore giv
@amunizp @Linux4Everyone @linux
@vipaal @amunizp @Linux4Everyone @linux
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...e up on UBUNTU and use the flash drive to generate a windows bootstick. Too bad.
But thanks again.
@HistoPol
Unfortunate to see hurdles thrown in the way to install a Linux based OS by manufacturers, though not quite surprising.
If the desire to try remains in you, please reach out to the local Linux users group #lug and ask if one of the members could spare a couple of hours with you. Many old timers would be glad to help. Might even bring back their memories of install fests.
https://www.infofuge.com/hp-omen-17-ubuntu/ there is hope to succeed in installing #ubuntu. Since as you said earlier that this is your first time outside of Windows there may be some loss in translation.
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@vipaal
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Thank you very much for your help and your kind words in particular.
I might try again later on, but for now, I need to get my PC moving again.
Strange that it did not work out with the old ASUS laptop either.
I will bookmark this post to be able to get back to it.
Funny enough, creating the Win10 bootstick was a piece of cake (as well) and the installation went smoothly (apart from the "1 m." updates and restarts).
Strange, with the...
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@vipaal
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...original stick I had purchased, I could never re-install it due to partition incompatibilities. Not with the new one.
Well, this is solved for now.
I can now figure out which modules are which and send the OMEN back to HP once again.
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@vipaal
PS:
Funny that it DOES seem possible to install Ubuntu on an OMEN-17 after all.
I quickly read through the steps and recognized them.
Of course, I did not press install but went for the direct boot from stick.
In any event, my feeling now is that what the machine says is correct: there is a problem with MY BIOS.
As I took pics, I will send them to HP as well.
"Something is rotten in the State of Denmark" (again). ;)
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@vipaal @amunizp @Linux4Everyone @linux
I refrain from asking why.
I am thankful for the solution path. Will try it tomorrow.
@HistoPol
This colour thing is interesting.
Is this the thing? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1404516/screen-turns-yellow-even-using-the-live-option-ubuntu-22-04
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@HistoPol
Because you are only testing maybe use an older distribution for #Ubuntu LTS?
OR
Sudo warning: https://heimdalsecurity.com/blog/watch-out-you-might-get-hacked-when-copy-pasting-commands-from-webpages/
The answer says to enable Wayland. But does not say where to put those commands: Ctrl+Alt+T will open a terminal (command prompt-ish). The first line will open a hacker-like text editor. Do the edit and a menu in the bottom tells you how to save and close. "^" is ctrl key. Nano (the text editor) is made for computers without mice.
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@amunizp
Yes, exactly, but with no green but white instead (even worse contrast).
I read the link now:
"
I managed to solve the problem, I had to set the monitor calibration in Settings/Color and set sRGB as default for both monitors."
Will not work for me as I cannot see a think w/ white on yellow. The power-down button was puré luck.
Also, this us a laptop monitor, no #display buttons, etc.
IMO sth. would..
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...need to be reset in the BIOS, though what, no idea whatsoever.
@HistoPol
OK. You still have your windows working as it was?
With liveUSB nothing should happen but good practice always says to make backups.
There are several LTS (long term support) that slightly overlap in years you can upgrade from one to the next.
You can try another distribution like #linuxmint Or #fedora .
This is what default Ubuntu looks like:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+desktop&t=fpas&iax=images&ia=images
Default fedora:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=fedora+desktop&t=fpas&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
Default mint:
https://linuxmint.com/screenshots.php
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Thanks will look at this tomorrow.
No, the PC had (!) already not been working anymore b/c some smart-ass HP support technician thought it necessary to update the BIOS as a 1st step in finding about why the replaced battery did not work longer than only 45 min. Now, the PC doesn't find a bookable OS on the 2 upgrade SSD's anymore, that had been working nicely for several years. What he should...
@amunizp @ubuntu @Linux4Everyone @linux
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...have done, is to check and reset the max #BatteryCapacity, a manager from a specialist battery company informed me recently. The content on the upgrade SSDs is still unchanged, though.
@HistoPol
That is strange #Ubuntu is normally purple or orange. And defo should not look like windows 1.0 . icons run on the left side and a very thin info bar on top
Could it be some sort of BIOS/UEFI config? Screen?
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@HistoPol
Not sure what Omens and the news article have to do?
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