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Tech Bros Invented Trains And It Broke Me
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I'm also wondering what the ROI is on automation costs and maintenance thereafter versus paying a conductor to just drive the thing.
In Copenhagen, the metro is fully automated and there are discussions of doing the same with the commuter rail (all grade separated). I think the more interesting benefit to the commuter rail is they will run closer together in time and run more frequently at night (every 10 vs 20 or 30 minutes)... But I don't think the financials would ever really pay for the upgrades needed...
The CPH metro also has short trains - evacuation of a three-car train is substantially less difficult than the safe evacuation of, say, a Victoria Line train - 133m long, with a crush load of 1,200 people and no side walkways. You're right that the benefit here isn't so much in cost savings (most trains still have at least one staff member on board) as it is in being able to run short trains at low headways.