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[-] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 19 points 2 days ago

Let's hope they get fined and it sets a precedent. That crap of" pay or consent" it's becoming the norm in every site I visit. That's not a free choice. I'm forced to consent if I don't want to pay, so it should be a flawed consent.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world -3 points 2 days ago

I disagree, no one is by law obligated to provide free services for you. Either pay or have ads is fine by me.

And DMA does not care about your local newspaper site, unless they're so big that they're a gatekeeper. Ruling based on DMA does not affect anyone but the gatekeepers.

[-] sandbox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Pay or have ads is fine by the EU’s DMA law too. What isn’t fine is the collection of user data without consent. Facebook can show all the ads they want, but if they collect user data to target those ads they need consent.

Think about radio or TV advertising - those aren’t targeted at specific people, but rather they’re targeted based on what channel, time of day and TV shows that they’re around. Meta can do the same stuff, but they just don’t want to give up that lucrative user data.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world -4 points 2 days ago

I obviously meant ads that track you, didn't know I have to spell it out. So to clarify, I was talking about the tracking kind of ads which need user consent. My point was that giving consent or paying is fine in my book, because you have a choice and no one is entitled to a free service. And that even if DMA decides it's not, it doesn't concern anyone but a few select companies.

To be fair, I'm like 80% sure it was perfectly clear in the original comment as well.

[-] sandbox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I was making the point that ad-supported services have been financially viable for centuries without needing to invade personal privacy, and that governments have been regulating industries for even longer - and at this point, your personal choice doesn’t really matter. You might be perfectly happy to eat food cooked in an unhygienic kitchen, for example, but enough people have been harmed in the past for food hygiene regulations to be commonplace worldwide.

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