525
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2024
525 points (97.8% liked)
politics
19238 readers
2450 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
I asssume both of us realize 'vote blue no matter who' won't be enough. The DNC doesn't exist as a bulwark against fascism. It's only function is to operate as a hand of corporate interest. Currently the DNC is used as a way to corner us to the edge of a cliff so they can clip off the weak ones then drive the rest off the ledge.
If there was a way out, right now, it would be straight through. Except corpo rightly expect that you will cling to your way of life until the very end. Maybe if, when we were younger, they told us, "Some day you will have to make a choice. Chose to cling to your material possessions or to cling to each other. One will directly effect the other. Prepare yourself everyday until that point."
Even then, we know now 30% for sure aren't giving up their "stuff" no matter what. The rest. We will see I suppose.
Yes, we know. What are you changing about that in the next few weeks?
Oh, I don't discourage people from voting biden. Go ahead and vote. I honestly believe there is nothing left to say about the election or there wasn't the moment we knew Trump was the nominee.
Everyone go vote. Please. You'd be stupid not to.
Will you vote for him?
I'll vote biden all day every day. I'll vote biden today tomorrow and the next. Look around you. Pay attention. Any one who can see what I see would do the same.
That last part is where we disagree. I've talked to people that aren't going to. They exist.
I think most informed people understand that voting for Biden isn't the cure-all. We are a car without breaks careening down a cliff side, winding, pothole-filled road slick with a fresh spill from a septic truck and we are faced with turning one direction and driving off the cliff or turning the other and staying on the rough road knowing there is at least a chance of it clearing up and hopefully offering some better intersections ahead. At least Joe's team is trying to hose off the sewage and is willing to hear you out about the asphalt-guy you know that can handle the job. The other guy's side has Ivan's Forestry Specialists on speed dial and just needs the cash advance to pay him, then he will totally be here any day to fix the roads cause he totally does that too. Also he is a pilot, so you should totally trust him that he can land the car if you go off the cliff...there sure are some nice roads down there at the bottom. Biden, or even Democrats won't fix everything. They will be conservative-lite, but the other option in our flawed system is conservative-FOREVER. The problem with your "we must all give up everything and probably go homeless to protest and rebel" is the prisoner's dilemma. We all go in 100% or we lose.... permanently. Those of us not dead set on going all-in, because we know others won't (not even debatable), want to maintain the status quo as the only good option, so we can at least fix the "we lose... permanently" part.
Or maybe I am an idiot and haven't eaten today. Those are my 3¢(inflation).