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this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2024
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This is good news indeed.
But I see the same problems as with email, chat etc. You can selfhost almost everything. But too few people are doing it. You can use Linux as your Desktop and at least 4% are doing it. Still too few if you ask me.
And if most of the people keep using the commercial and closed source options over the self hosted one, then I see this concentration of power. Additionally, there is the risk of regulatory capture, where big companies may try to at least hinder self hosting due to (what I consider) made up risks.
However, its good that there are currently such good open source option. I hope they will grow and become the defacto standard.
@paw @db0
Exactly, this is just a diversionist argument pretending that just because a theoretical possibility exists the problem can be considered solved in practice - it's like the decrepti old capitalist argument that "everyone can start their own company" if they don't like how they're treated as an employee. No they can't, not in the real world out there. That only works on paper, i.e. if you ignore the current distribution of resources and privileges in the existing society and economy.
This is not theoretical. It already is in place and is already serving people. The only reason it's not growing more is because we don't have any marketing and we don't participate in the capitalist rot economy.
@db0
Yep, like I said: doesn't work as advertised "just because actual reality".
Me: "The system works exactly as advertised for thousands of people"
You, a wise person: "The system doesn't work as advertised because not everyone in the world is using it."
You're a very unserious person, so I won't engage further with this nonsense.
The system is explicitly setup so that normal people don't need to set up anything. Experts and enthusiasts are the one doing the complex work, while normies just use a simply client like this and power users can also use more advanced clients.
That's up to all of us to counter by promoting the good solutions instead, not of just despairing and begging politicians to fix this (they won't, they'll promote monopolies instead)
That was always the case. Having said that, I'll appreciate your enthusiasm and that you share this work.