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But it'll all be fine, I'm sure it'll blow over and never affect me
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That's right wing gaslighting.
That's what I have been told by a friend who is a libertarian. Is what he said wrong?
If your friend calls themselves a libertarian, then my starting assumption would be they are wrong about everything.
It's true that Trump made some kind of declaration as President, but that was pretty much a meaningless gesture. The US actually has no official list of domestic terror organizations, only foreign. In any case, calling antifa a terrorist organization is absurd.
A quick note on libertarianism: I consider myself a libertarian, but what passes for libertarianism in the US is anything but. Libertarianism is a left wing political philosophy, while the US Libertarian party is far right. It would be more accurate to label them as anarcho-capitalist.
That makes more sense.
Neither of us live or are from the USA. So I don't think this is relevant here.
A lot of foolishness is born in the US but doesn't stay here. It might still be relevant.
Well they believe in a social safety net, which US libertarians don't. So I wouldn't necessarily put them in the same bracket. I still think their politics is somewhat foolish, but I think the same thing of many far left people.
I find that foolishness is spread pretty evenly across the political spectrum. I think most people believe what they want to believe and figure the "details" will work themselves out. Anyways, here in the US, the "far left" means things like universal healthcare, which seems a lot saner to me than the alternatives.
The idea of universal healthcare being far left wing would be obscene where I live as it's already a reality here in the UK and in much of Europe. Far left to me is Marxists, Anarchists, and left accelerationists.
There is a surprising variety among even those who call themselves Marxists or anarchists. Some are way more practical than others. Marx was first and foremost a critic of capitalism, and his criticisms were way ahead of their time and right on the money. Anarchism covers a whole lot of ground that I wouldn't consider anarchism myself. The umbrella basis for anarchism is anti-authoritarianism. To me, that makes them less extreme than authoritarian socialists like in the Soviet Union or China. I'd consider myself an anarchist, but only in the margins that realize that government does play a critical role in establishing and defending freedoms.