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[-] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I deleted most of this comment because it wasn't as civil and understanding as I wanted it to be and it's probably better off lost to history ๐Ÿ˜†

But let me summarize my thoughts: your mother, and presumably you, eat a lot more meat than the average person. The 10% of human foods that aren't plant-based and can't easily be made plant-based are overrepresented in your meat heavy diet.

And meat heavy diets are bad for your personal health and for the health of the planet, for reasons we both know very well.

Which is to say: you are universalizing your personal experiences. It's not difficult to go vegan. It's difficult for you to go vegan, because your diet and lifestyle are so heavily focused on animal products. That's not an indictment of veganism; it's an indictment of the Western diet, and big agriculture, and capitalist food science that studied what flavors and textures trigger dopamine release so they could pack food with them and sell more product, and the whole vicious capitalist PR mechanism that convinced Westerners to eat a meat heavy, highly processed, unhealthy diet and convinced Western governments to subsidize it. And, to a much lesser extent, it is an indictment of your personal choices.

It's difficult for you to go vegan. But that's not on veganism. That's on you.

[-] memfree@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

And we're back to my complaint about the article. For some people, veganism is hard. Obviously it isn't hard for everyone, and I never said everyone, but for some people it is.

Articles like the one posted created a divide and encourage the belittlement of people trying to do better rather than suggesting anyone try to help people get closer to veganism.

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