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I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment, but technically it is entirely up to Biden, and no one else. The DNC can’t just nominate whoever they want, there was a primary to determine the nominee. Most delegates that will vote for him at the convention, must vote for him. They’re required by state law to vote with the primary’s popular vote. The only way for that to change is for Biden to decide to step aside. Then the delegates would be free to vote however they wanted.
It’s a messed up and broken system that is hard to call democratic, but internal party politics rarely are. He needs to be the bigger person and step aside. It’s pure hubris at this point for him to think he’s the only human being in a country of 300 million who could beat Trump.
That's not what the DNCs lawyers argued to a judge less than a decade ago...
You're assuming the DNC can't just change their own rules first. Which is what the DNC is currently acting like.
It's not true though. They change their own rules all the time.
The DNC is a private corporation. Corporations are people too, friend.
Everything you said checks out, sir.
What the DNC lawyers say and what the general public will allow are two different things.
If Joe doesn't volunteer to step down, and it looks like he won't here's what will happen:
Joe runs and loses.
DNC removes Joe for Kamala and she loses because everyone hates her.
DNC forces both Joe and Kamala out and they lose because the voters had no say in the process.
Really, the only way out here is for Joe to die and get replaced by Kamala who then gets the sympathy vote.
Yeah, but polls show voters want to replace him...
If the DNC replaced him, that's what voters want.
I'm linking this too much probably.
But this podcast changed my mind about her. Still think she'll be a bad president. But trump is probably the only candidate she can beat, even with the 29% approval rating. After this video I think she can beat trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jic_uL3-q4
If you're worried Kamala can't beat Trump, watching the first half of that will make you feel a lot better about her.
Because honestly, I can't imagine the DNC let's anyone else takeover.
The polls don't know what they want and your average voter is a moron. If they asked them "Well, what should we do?" most likely the answer would be "Well, re-run the primary!" not realizing it takes 6 months to run a primary in 50 states+DC.
So you think voters will do a 180 and now be upset Biden is replaced when they've been calling for him to be replaced?
I don't understand.
There's been no waffling in the polls, even in 2020 voters thought Biden's age was a significant issue.
They still do, but they used to too.
I do, because they will have had no say in who replaces him.
The same way the DNC forced Hillary on everyone in 2016.
I agree with that
But I think Biden and Hillary are the only two who can lose to trump.
I think if it's not Biden it's Kamala. If you still don't think she can win, check out that podcast I linked you. I know podcasts suck, but it's really fucking good and logically spells out how despite how bad Kamala is, she can still beat Trump. And like we've said, they agree she's pretty much the only one the DNC would nominate
Kamala can't win because even her own staff hates her and she has tremendous baggage from her days in California.
I do like the Biden clip on Morning Joe though.
https://youtu.be/8aziuR76Cek
I'm not trying to be out her campaigning for her...
But her baggage is being a prosecutor. And she be running against a guy with 34 felonies.
She uniquely excels at debating idiots. She can be incredibly dismissive and then pivot quickly back to the issue.
15 minutes into a debate/exchange and trump would be screaming nonsense giving himself a heart attack and Kamala would be calmly lying to us about how progressive she is.
And even though we all know she's lying, we knew Joe was lying in 2020 too. We still voted for him.
We voted for Hillary in 2016.
We voted for Obama in 2012 after we knew what he was really like.
We won't go that far with Joe. But Kamala has benefit of the doubt. And that's enough to get votes when trump is on the ballot
The baggage goes a little beyond "being a prosecutor":
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html
Getting caught manipulating evidence is exactly the sort of thing that cost her the primary bid and should have cost her the VP job.
But when it comes to electability, literally nobody likes her. Even her own staff hates her. She's a non-starter as a viable candidate. She's Hillary but less likeable.