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There's a lot of trash on Reddit. But the reason why I stayed as long as I did was also because there were a lot of nice people swimming among the trash. And those few made it worth it. Always someone willing to help, to empathize, to laugh and find comfort with.
I've bumped into trash here on Lemmy as well. But the ratio of trash to nice people seems to be far lower here, luckily. I am grateful for that.
One thing that hasn't changed is the up vote/down vote lottery you play in the comments. When people see "0" or "-1", they seem to jump and smash that down vote button, too. Human nature, I guess.
The vote lottery does happen here, but the lack of karma makes it less impactful. I feel like it's a good balance.
(I just wish that the downvote here gave you more feedback on why you're being downvoted, while still being somewhat anonymous. Multiple types of downvote would solve this, I think.)
I don't think this is a bad idea. You'd have a reason for being down-voted. Some people I think need that, either for closure or to learn about themselves, whether they want to or not.
Although where would it end... There could be so many reasons for down-voting someone.
Maybe an alternative could be to establish a simple ground rule for down-voting, like "a down vote is for something that doesn't belong on this platform" or breaks the TOS or something, in combination with a popup or similar that reminds/nags you about it each time you down-vote. Of course that'd be up to each client to implement such a thing, as that would be client-side behavior. Perhaps opt-out-able in settings, but a sane default after a fresh install.
Just brain-storming. 😅
It would be also useful to detect when you say something that needs to be clarified further. Often things are extra clear in your mind, but when you write them down people get confused, assumers put words on the gaps, this sort of stuff.
It would be useful for the downvoter, too. A lot of people downvote stuff automatically; perhaps if they were required to think "why am I downvoting this?", they wouldn't.
I think that 5~8 wider categories would work the best. For example "unfunny", "factually incorrect", "rude", so goes on. And then a catch-all "no clarification / other / I simply dislike it".
The problem is enforcing it. Like @AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world, people will misuse it as like/dislike buttons. So perhaps giving a way to express it that is clearly labelled as such would be an improvement.
(I'm brainstorming too, mind you. Nothing too serious.)
Your points make perfect sense as well, to me.
And you mention the ground rule. I guess it wouldn't be a "rule" that would be enforced so much, so to speak. More like a rule of thumb. A reminder to us that just having a net count of dislikes and likes is not very nuanced and easily causes polarization.
But your points are good, thank you for adding!
I kind of somewhat sympathize with the instances that remove the down vote button. Either you up vote something you care about or agree with, or want others to see; or you discuss. Because if there's no discussion, wtf is this platform even for.