Gtfoh with your "normal people" ableist nonsense. Never mind that the guy was as average white American man as you can fucking get..

White supremacist christofascist patriarchal ableist capitalism did this, not mental illness. Privilege and entitlement, and the ability of those in power who manufactured them to use them to control and manipulate certain groups under threat of losing their superiority over others, did this.

I'm so sick and tired of this fucking "mental illness did it" obtuse bullshit.

I'll just leave this here, and I'm out I'm not "debating" this:

“Are you saying that murderers are right in the head??”

No there’s definitely something wrong with someone’s way of thinking if they can justify killing innocent people, but this doesn’t necessarily mean that they have a mental illness.

Extremist beliefs isn’t a mental illness.

Bigotry isn’t a mental illness.

Entitlement isn’t a mental illness.

Hate isn’t a mental illness.

Having a dysfunctional moral compass isn’t a mental illness.

We need to stop categorizing all these things as some undefinable “mental illness” and start looking at what we do as a society to develop and justify these things to a degree where people use them to justify killing.

Yes!

Dehumanization is something you Have to look for. If the murderer doesn’t see the person they killed as a person, then mental illness is probably not the main factor there.

Plenty of people murder women, poc, lgbt people, people of other religions etc. because they don’t see them as people.

Think about genocides - they aren’t perpetrated by big group of people/a government who all got mentally ill together the same way at the same time somehow, they just didn’t consider what they did murder because they didn’t see the victims as people.

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