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[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 69 points 3 weeks ago
[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago

It's a weird word to use to describe state sponsored terrorism.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 18 points 3 weeks ago

What do you think a settler colony is?

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Settlers is a weird word... Not evil.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

readsettlers.org then. Settlers are pure evil.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah but for most people who aren't knowledgeable about history, the connotation isn't necessarily negative.

It should be, but it isn't. "Settlers of Catan" is probably one of the most popular board games ever, and it's all just friendly people trading sheep and wood and shit.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, because it's not the settling part of a settler that is harmful. Settling in new lands is a foundational human behavior.

It's displacing people when you settle on their already claimed land, and treating yourself as superior that tends to badly violate human rights.

In the fantasy world of Catan, we don't genocide the natives to gain territory. This doesn't make Catan harmful, it makes it a game.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

I would argue that settlers is whitewashing colonization since it has all the hallmarks of exploiting a foreign land and shipping the goods abroad but it's very conveniently unsettled.

Like how the american frontier was claimed to be unsettled land just waiting to be settled.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

This is why people don't invite you to boardgame night.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Im the one who hosts boardgame night lol

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

This doesn't counteract my claim that nobody invites you to theirs.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

if anything bolsters it

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hence me linking a history book on the topic...

[-] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

most people who aren't knowledgeable about history

sorry but that's as the kids say a skill issue

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

You're gonna have to explain this take. Illegal state-sponsored settlements in the West Bank are absolutely evil. There's nothing weird about describing it that way.

[-] NormalPerson@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe they meant using the word settler instead of something more apt, like invader, pillager, trespasser, violator, etc.

[-] Laborer3652@reddthat.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

They all mean the same thing though.

[-] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

"Settlers" isonly weird to you if you discount all the other times settler colonialists stole land and committed ethnic cleansing and genocide.

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