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MAGA is straight up losing it after Taylor Swift’s Harris endorsement
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Objectively, she is very successful and popular.
Objectively, nobody asked for your opinion.
Subjectively, anyone taking jabs at Swift right now, especially in the context of her endorsement of Harris, is coming across as very suspicious.
I don't have to be asked that by some moron to express my opinions.
I'm not sure you know what the word "objective" means.
Objectively, the woman has almost 300 million total followers, and has driven almost a half million new signups in TWO DAYS with her post clarifying she's not supporting Team Red. Objectively, she has a net worth that pisses off quite a few liberals because we tend to think having billions of dollars is millions of people living in abject poverty. Objectively she is a part of American popular culture. Objectively, she has eleven singles ranked at the top of the Billboard Hot 100 chart. Objectively, she has 232 charted titles on the Hot 100 as of February of this year, ranking her as the most accomplished woman and in the top ten of ALL singers, world-wide. By all objective measures, this woman is a really damn good singer.
Your opinions of her are your own, which is subjective. The numbers I cited above, taken from Billboard are very objective numbers based on how often songs are bought and streamed. While it's very subjective for individual viewers (and I agree, she's not my cup of tea either!), the objective fact is that Swift speaks to a lot of people, and your personal disdain for her doesn't change that fact one stinkin' bit.
Todd is absolutely right, though. It's a very Salty Rightie thing to do to come in an attack a woman with some serious musical awards and accomplishments and say just because he didn't like her, she's no good. Anyone pulling this crap right now really looks defeated, humiliated, and just plain utterly SAD, a sad sack of a bitter and scorned rightie angry that a pretty girl rejected their Emprah and endorsed the other side.
Good that you noticed.
There's no such thing as objectively good singer.
That said, my initial comment didn't make my opinion any more "objective" than yours - one subjective opinion against another.
Disdain? Could you stop whiteknighting please?
You have a weird mind.
I don't live and don't vote in the USA ; that aside, Trump winning would mean existential risks for part of my family.
Now, what does it say about you - to pull all this shit out of your imagination without any real reason whatsoever?
Sure, here on the Internet where the Men are Men, the Women are Men, the Children are FBI Agents, SURE you're not a deranged trumper shitting on the lady who your side tried to coopt a few weeks ago, and nobody, and I mean nobody knows I'm a cat.
I don't trust you and you shitting on Swift is doing you no favours. If you don't like Swift, you move on. That you didn't and continue to attack anyone who questions your silliness suggests that you're more than non-appreciative of her as a singer. Hell, I don't like her as a singer. But I'm not going to act like a bitchy MAGA idiot by shitting on her music on a thread about how she is making bitchy MAGA idiots lose their shit by endorsing the other person. :)
Actually I was thinking you might be tasty...
Also
... is a normal reaction, behave like a moron - receive all kinds of insulting responses. Just admit it and move on.
I'm gonna stop you right there, chief. Singing ability is measurable, and quantifiable. You absolutely can be objectively good or bad at it. This isn't a statement of personal taste, it's a matter of basic observation. It is possible to dislike a song, and conclude the singing is good. It's possible to like a song and conclude that the singing is bad.
You can be wrong about a person's singing ability if you are unable to separate your personal preferences for singing with an objective look at things like a singer's pitch control, consistency, emotionality, and flexibility.
Musical preference is a subjective thing, but musical theory is much less so.
With that said, Taylor Swift is objectively an excellent singer. I'm not a huge fan of her music, but I don't have to be to know that it's true.
I could say that singing ability differs between various things that can be called singing in various cultures, and anything depending on spectator's evaluation (pleasure) is subjective, but these are obvious, so whatever, hold a cookie