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[-] Grebes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

You seem pretty ill informed or willfully ignorant if you are saying both sides are the same. Politicians listen to the people who vote or donate to them not to the lunatic fringe. The right wing, and especially the Supreme Court have actively worked to destroy women’s rights, increase the influence of dark money, remove restrictions on executive authority, and funnel public money to religious organizations. Don’t let your anger with the pace of progress blind you to the stakes here.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Politicians listen to the people who vote or donate to them

Politicians do not listen to people who vote for them unconditionally. Why would they?

[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

i never said they were the exactly the same infact i said they were even worse for immigrants at a national level because they are. And lets be very fucking clear here u are ok with genocide i am not that is the difference any other year i wouldnt care, but right now we have a regime in government who openly and loudly supports genocide who revels in the slaughter of children, the question at the polls is a simple one do u support that genocidal regime or not.

[-] JackiesFridge@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

There are many questions at the polls and the Israel issue is only one - and one that by law cannot change until we overhaul Congress. These are stupidly complex political issues that can't be boiled down to supporting genocide. I am against genocide and I wish America had a stronger stance against what the Israeli government is doing, but we're playing the cards we've been dealt.

The fact that "any other year" you wouldn't care suggests you are not familiar with the decades of work the US has put into the middle East and all the difficulty and frustration involved.

The question at the polls is really: who has a chance of actually winning, and which of the two viable options is less bad for Palestine? And keep on mind, congressional seats will also be on the ballot. Congress is the only body that can rewrite the laws that dictate what we can or cannot do in the middle East.

[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

right now there is genocidal regime in power u can either support them or not do that, that is all, i know to u amerikkkans genocide is nothing having committed so many thru out ur history and feeling proud of them and all that but for normal people there is no space for compromise here.

[-] JackiesFridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yawwwwn

Politics IS compromise.

Genocide is wrong no matter who's doing it. That's not even the argument here. Sadly, half a dozen presidents ago Congress decided the US needs Israel for some reason (very likely because it's mentioned in their dumb little book as key for the second coming of their dumb little god) so now there's a binding agreement and nobody can say anything bad about Israel. Violating that causes a whole storm of international drama that would (shock!) cause more destruction than the current horrifying, illegal, and whitewashed genocide.

I'm dumbing this down for you. You're welcome.

Where we are now the government's hands are tied unless it gets overhauled. Since there are only two viable political parties, the lesser of two evils is the choice - and you're right, they're both evil, but there's the "supports genocide" evil and the "supports genocide AND fascism AND suppression of women & minorities AND oligarchy AND Russia etc" evil. Dems in power = slim possibility of overhaul. GOP in power = no possibility of the public having any sway ever again.

Your smug all or nothing rhetoric is short sighted, excessively privileged, and frankly dangerous. I'm ignoring you now. Feel free to post your gotcha and declare yourself victorious.

[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Like i said u amerikkkans are very comfy with genocide not a big deal for u i get it u are evil but for actual fucking humans with empathy and emotions and shit there is no compromise with genocide. I reiterate u are trying to excuse voting for a genocidal regime because u might get a few crumbs of positive legislature YOU ARE PATHETIC, and u are evil. We are done here.

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