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[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just so we're clear, your position is that Biden is at fault, but if he wasn't supporting this genocide, it would actually be worse?

It's late, and I'm watching the fights, so I don't have my full attention to spare, but I had enough available to read your comment and see that that you're being earnest in your argument, and your analysis is not disingenuous.

That's important to me, because while it's really bad, it also means that you're probably not a bad person.

For starters, it's all counterfactuals, and while that alone means it's a just barrel of formal and informal fallacies, it's also based on deeply flawed, or just grossly uneducated, misunderstandings of a wide range of fields, ranging from international relations, to military procurement and sustainment.

I'm not trying to be mean, and to be fair, I have an academic background in multiple fields related to these subjects, so I'm not pulling my criticism out of my ass.

But another fight is about to start, so my text to speech comment must end.

[-] Veneroso@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The TLDR is that bad people are bad and will be bad regardless of who they buy thier weapons from.

It's beyond shitty and I am totally against it.

Unfortunately, at least if we're selling the weapons, we have at least some say in how their used.

All of this is against the Arms Export Control Act. We are literally ignoring the law by continuing to ship these weapons. Congress has turned a blind eye to all of it. Largely due to the threat of being primaried by a pro-AIPAC candidate. We have already seen it repeatedly during the Democrat primary where the progressive anti-genocide incumbents were replaced by Zionist representatives, or at least people willing to look the other way for the big check.

Multiple states have laws against protesting Israel that if you want to do business with the state, you have to support Israel. So much for freedom of speech.

The only solace I have is that the person Kamala Harris has tapped for Secretary of State was a huge proponent of the Iran deal and that we might possibly have some cooler heads if she wins vs this death cult. I can't say that it will be peace, but at least she won't be putting up a Trump tower on the West Bank.....

Here is a playlist from a channel with a better handle on foreign policy than I'll ever have.

They cover multiple topics, including some of the points that I have raised. Obviously it's unlikely to change your position, but at least you'll have insight into how things are. Foreign policy isn't about morals or right from wrong. It's about power.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZOMlO2_17fsBGC7TrCwoFafQZbE6aj0P&si=eYX1XvPa0xsSWceD

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