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[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I understand it is very unfortunate that I answered your ridiculous, non sensical statements and sentence by sentence at that. I've honestly never seen arguments making so little sense by a democrat and I've argued with a lot. Also the gaslighting goes craaazy once again. But it's literally impossible to answer to what I say, what you said is just undefendable - from the fact that Harris is now 100% with Zionists, but she will magically stand up when all the lobbies will pressure her to take decisions for them and people will have no say, to how she can do nothing to stop this or express strong disagreement as vice president, or to how you ignore anything she's ever said, having the exact same rhetoric as Biden, Blinken etc, backing the genocidal maniacs.

So now you resort to the most common argument about Trump, saying that everything I said can be applied to him, which is really funny. It's as if I ever said he will be any better. There's a serious lack of meaningful arguments here. See, ignoring the strawman, the problem with this lesser evil argument, is that there is always a red line beyond which both parties are indistinguishable(think if you had to choose between Hitler and Hitler that handed out a hundred bucks per month as allowance). Both parties cause so much pain, suffering and harm to the world, not just the middle east, and they are so far away from anything I and a lot of people would find even remotely satisfactory, that it's ridiculous to vote for them. Both are moving to the exact opposite direction to my ideals and aggressively so. Their differences are literally miniscule.

There is necessarily a point where the lesser evil doesn't hold, for everyone. Our difference is that you are not at that point yet. Your ideals and criteria are different and frankly you don't care about the Palestinians that much supporting a genocide perpetrator, you don't care enough to vote third party or not vote.

Cause she is a Zionist, genocide perpetrator and that's a given(Biden is even bragging multiple times about how no one has helped Israel as much as his cabinet ever - and he's right), nobody denies that besides people like you who are tasked with convincing the left wing to vote for your stupid party.

It's sad and disgusting to me to have to explain myself on how the democrats go against my and the people's interests and I can't continue discussing this with you. I'm obviously talking through you, you don't come for arguments, you come to make me vote for your abomination of a party. You know what they say, you can't make someone understand something, when it's in their direct interest to not understand it. Have a nice day

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

"it's sad a disgusting to me to have to explain myself on how democrat's go against my and the people's interest"

Your wall of text is full of strawman arguments and made up assumptions. No doubt you argue alot when you argue with yourself on points nobody made.

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