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submitted 2 months ago by veganpizza69@lemmy.vg to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

Maybe EVs are not a comprehensive climate solution??

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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

While I think it’s good to raise awareness about carbon footprints, the fact is that carbon footprints of individuals, regardless of their socioeconomic status, pales in comparison to that of corporations. Individuals should be last on the list for reducing carbon footprints when corporations and government inefficiency produces more damage than whole populations of people combined.

[-] Jack@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Corporations aren't causing a mass extinction just for shits and giggles, they're doing it because billions of individuals buy their products and services. If the billions of individuals stopped buying it, the corporations would stop making/offering it. The rich cause more harm in the short term, but even poor people having more kids despite the biosphere not being able to sustainably support even a fraction of the current population, are more omnicidal in the longer term.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You’re right that bad consumer choices like choosing fast fashion or inefficient vehicles result in more harm than good. Though there are places where people don’t have a choice, like in what farms do to produce their meats and produce, and how it’s transported.

What energy sources we use and agriculture are bigger contributors to emissions than consumer goods. Even if people stop buying, manufacturing will happen for war and construction. Reducing emissions is a systems problem, it’s not about telling people to “be more green”. That’s a bandaid for a gushing wound.

I don’t think we should blame people if they buy an ICE car, but we should blame them if they don’t vote for progressive politicians who mandate better industry practices and invest in more green energy.

Here’s some data https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector

[-] Jack@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

produce their meats

Billions of individuals choose to eat animal products giving money to factory farmers and industrial fishing companies - 2 industries that cause more pain and suffering than all other atrocities ever committed in all of history, combined (1-3 trillion fish are tortured to death every year by fishing companies, and at least hundreds of billions of animals are enslaved in torturous conditions in factory-farms every year). I live in a 3rd world country, and went vegan almost 20 years ago. For the people causing most harm: those in rich countries, it's easier to be vegan.

For those who can't grow their own plant-food, there's still this: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-kcal-poore

Reducing emissions is a systems problem, it’s not about telling people to “be more green”

It's both: "No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood."

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

no single raindrop is to blame for the flood, and poore-nemecek is scientific malpractice. I wouldn't trust that paper to tell me the co2e of co2

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