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they have been (for whatever reason) studying about wars currently going on in the middle east since apparently brazil doesn't document on this enough, as well as reading up on zionism. they've been seeing "a LoT oF eXtReMiSm FrOm BoTh SiDeS" and assured me that they weren't trying to "question in defense of zionism because they don't know everything about the subject and that they are just a student seeking further information about it"

i was already thinking of:

  • showing them pictures of disgusting zionist settler colonialists sitting on roofs watching IOF genocide and bomb on palestinians live
  • showing them pictures of the barbarianism committed by the IOF (stuff like them descerating a lifeless palestinian's body? wearing a bra on their genocidal missions? idk, pics of them had surfaced on lemmygrad some months back)
  • that one video where a zionist settler-colonialist goes "if i don't steal it, someone else will" to a native palestinian
  • a news article where despite having the deeds to the house, zionist settler colonialists just up and start living on the palestinian's house and kick them out
  • mention how the IOF murdered palestinian babies and pulled an US by expanding more than they were permitted to
  • mention that it's pretty disgusting/insensitive to paint this as a case of "extremism from both sides" when it's clearly about a group of oppressed people being genocided on their own lands finally fighting back against the show of power they've been doing for the past decades. (i wonder if they'd ask "further proof" of this)
  • show proof about the zionist project's existence being only a recent thing over palestine's, which had existed for a long time (though i wonder if they'd try to pull the bible verse about "israelis" and shit)

is there anything else i'm missing here? or am i good to go?

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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 18 hours ago

I think that a good thing to mention is the Great March of Return, how a large segment of the population of Gaza was dedicated to pursuing peaceful protest to reclaim their old homes and free prisoners, and they were met not just with rubber bullets and tear gas, but live ammunition, notoriously snipers aiming for kneecaps and essentially competing seeing how many they could shoot, like American settlers gunning down buffalo.

But really, what they are asking for is why you are anti-zionist. Unless you think you've been groomed by hexbear (since that's the popular allegation, or so I've heard), there's no way any of us know the answer to that better than you do. I have nothing against sharing resources with them (maybe spare them the gore if you can), but I think it'd be most effective to give a personal history of your beliefs and what persuaded you. You believe it for good reason, don't you? Then talk about that!

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Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

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