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Longtime Liberal MP Wayne Long says Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should give more weight to the views of his backbenchers in determining his future leading the Party, rather than relying on those in his immediate orbit.

“Seriously, get away from your inner circle,” Long told CTV’s Question Period host Vassy Kapelos, in an interview airing Sunday. “I don't want to name names, but get away from people, because obviously, prime ministers are somewhat insulated.”

Those sources also told CTV News at least two dozen MPs told Trudeau they’d like him to step aside during the meeting, over the course of the first ninety minutes.

But in a press conference fewer than 18 hours later, Trudeau was adamant he’s running again, a statement which caught some in his caucus, including Long, by surprise.

“I think we had hoped for serious reflection,” he told Kapelos. “Reflection in 18 hours tells me the Prime Minister, with respect, already had his mind made up.”

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[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago

There is nothing the liberals can do to alter the next election. They have 10 years of baggage and a different face isn't going to change how the electorate feels about that. First past the post will ensure the liberals don't form a government after the next election.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

I think I saw some poll data showing that the problem is mostly him and people would vote LPC with a new leadership.

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It would have to be an outsider candidate, and the LPC party structure does not do well with outsiders.

If you've ever experienced dealing with the LPC, you can see why: they're primary composed of compulsive board-of-directors members. Every Liberal representative and most of the party and riding executives are all from the same incestuous BoD members. They encounter each other all the time in their professional circles: they're on the committee for this, the board for that, the council for something else, the executive director for fill in the blank. They know each other because they're each other's lawyers, estate agents, consultants and so forth.

They're so socially inbred that it's incredibly difficult for an outsider to break in.

And before you say "All politicians are like this", they aren't:

  • the NDP is getting this way, but they're not there yet; with the weakening of organized labour, more of them are from the Director class, but a lot are still union folk and a few are student radicals. They're nowhere near as institutionalized as the Liberals
  • the Cons are composed of a mix of small-business douchebags and grifter-ideologues (sometimes in the same body!). It's actually pretty easy to break into the CPC: just have money and be a loud, obnoxious dick; support is something you can buy.
  • the Greens are pretty much split between true-believers that don't like the NDP's professionalism, and grifters that are working a green angle for their next scam. Again, easy to break into if you're loud enough. (side note, it's scary how many failed Green candidates pivot to the Conservatives).

Compared to the above, the Liberals place a much, much higher value on consensus and favour-trading, and have a visceral reaction against outsiders.

By Liberal standards, Trudeau is an outsider candidate. What the LPC wanted was a Dionne or Ignatieff.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Nice explanation. Honestly, I'm not rooting for an LPC revival. I tolerate but am not a fan of their half-measure policies. I'm only interested in their numbers as far as blocking PP from office. Unfortunately NDP don't seem to be gaining anything from LPC's drop in the polls. I don't know what would take for the NDP to change this.

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