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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

You're right but you're still an asshole. If you think Biden was bad, you should know that things can always get worse. It's entirely likely that Trump starts a war with Iran alongside Israel and surrenders Ukraine to Russia. Him using nukes is on the table too. It's too big a risk. That's where we are at. Risk minimization.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Biden is already helping Israel aggress against Iran! They're the most violent state in the region and the US is enabling their ability to start WW3 by provoking all their neighbors. It's already a regional war and it's going to get worse no matter who is elected.

As for Ukraine, we could have already had a negotiated peace deal. Instead, Biden and the Democrats want to fight to the last Ukrainian and so they sabotaged peace talks and blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline. They have no one to blame but themselves for the current situation in Ukraine, and it's their fault that Ukraine will be in an even worse position when Trump steals the election.

They never wanted Ukraine to win anyway. The purpose of the war was to let Russia bleed itself of blood and treasure. If they wanted the war to actually end they'd have given Ukraine the support it actually needs, but they would never and will never do that.

All of that said? If I really though Democrats were the lesser evil I'd vote for them. They're doing genocide, marching us to WW3, don't give a shit about meeting our climate goals, and are happy to let Republicans hurt us to help them win over votes. Fuck the Democrats, death to America, and when Trump steals the election you'll be on my side in the resistance anyway. Why wait?

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Trump would make this worse in every respect. Trump can't steal the election if he loses in a landslide. Votes from people like you could make this happen.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 22 hours ago

Does Harris seem to be running a campaign that will beat Trump "in a landslide"? Is that really how the election is looking to you?

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 22 hours ago
[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 22 hours ago

Sure sounded like it. I just want to be clear: It's not going to be a landslide. It's going to be nail-bitingly close. People shouldn't lie to themselves.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago

It's a call for votes as increasing distance between Harris and trump counts represent increasing the challenge of stealing the election.

"A landslide" represents the Highwater mark of the point, wherein it is completely impossible for trump to steal, and is illustrative in that it identifies the goal.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 21 hours ago

Does it look like we're going to reach that goal? Is Harris running the kind of campaign that can actually obtain a landslide?

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago

Who knows. That's not what's being discussed.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 21 hours ago

Yes it is! They literally said that votes from "people like me" would make a landslide.

That's a joke. Most of the people like me are fringe and irrelevant. We can't give her a landslide, even if all of .ml and lemmygrad and hexbear voted for Harris.

She will not get a landslide because she is running a bad campaign. It has nothing to do with a few irrelevant leftists.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

I checked the above chain, and don't see landslide aside from the comment you.and I are discussing. Perhaps it's elsewhere but not in the chain I'm referring to.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 19 hours ago
[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Re read my point.

They do not claim in that statement that a landslide is coming.

They are suggesting that if progressives voted Democrat, that a landslide COULD be more possible.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

And I'm suggesting that Harris is not running the kind of campaign that can get progressives to vote for her.

I'm also suggesting that "people like me" probably aren't very common in the US. For one, I believe we should be giving critical support to Hamas and Hezbollah and Ansar Allah in their protracted people's struggle against the Zionist settler-colonial entity.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago
[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Nobody with a vote is irrelevant. It is simply too big a risk to let Trump win again. We need every last vote. We need all the leftists, communists, anarchists, whoever. It isn't about supporting the system or Harris. It's about stopping an imminent catastrophe.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 19 hours ago

Every Palestinian father is my father. Every Palestinian mother is my mother. Every sibling is my sibling, cousin is my cousin.

I won't vote for genocide. I won't. I'd rather kill myself. Just listening to the daily horrors coming from the Strip make me want to die. There's already catastrophe! So many children starving or getting limbs amputated or being sniped in the head by IOF.

I've listened to so many people beg for their lives. I've seen so many bodies.

I hate this country I hate this country I hate this country I HATE THIS COUNTRY

Fascism is here. Genocide is here. The catastrophe can not be stopped because THE UNITED STATES IS THE CATASTROPHE.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And it will be worse if Trump becomes president. You can help stop that by voting. If you don't vote, you aren't resisting this coming to pass.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Unless Trump fucks it up and causes Israel to lose. Unless Trump triggers a popular backlash like he did in 2020 and causes another historical protest movement. Unless Democrats become a real opposition party again and refuse to help him do genocide.

We can't actually predict what will happen, so I'm just voting with my conscience instead of trying to play 5D chess with my vote.

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