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The order could place the military under the president’s total command, like never before.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I'm not saying Trump being in control is a good thing. Like I said: It's a slightly contrarian silver lining more than a serious take.

[-] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I fear you underestimate the intensity of the heat you welcome upon us all.

I wouldn't wish this result on anyone.

This will set all of humanity back. Do you think we all deserve to marry 9 year old girls as property?

What's your logic for holding this hate?

Do you want people to say "screw you as well"?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not hating anyone or wishing anything upon anyone. What I'm saying is this: The US military will likely be a less effective fighting force in 2028. I'm not saying I'm happy Trump has control of the military that's fucked up.

[-] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ok. You said contrarian silver lining. That's what I was responding to. I don't see the implementation and expansion of Schedule F to have the effect you expect.

Every interpretation of contrarian says you are against the popular opinion. Expanded: You are seeing a positive to this negative against popular opinion.

It's hard to interpret your reasoning based on history and the factors surrounding the current military itself as positive or not hateful to a large group. The group could possibly include yourself.

Brief explanation on my perspective. Your initial comment is more easily interpreted as "Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face". Significant amounts of military technology has been historically developed and prototyped by external corporations. A military brain drain will only impact the leaders. As noted the strikes will be blunted and not surgical. More deaths, not less.

The third reich lasted roughly 12 years.

The nazi military tried to separate themselves from the SS historically. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/timeline-of-the-german-military-and-the-nazi-regime

IBM and other major US corporations provided products to the Nazis for quite a while.

Are you familiar with Project Paperclip?

The nazi regime discovered new scientific advances that have been used to great effect since.

So that's where history paints a different tale.

Do you think you have enough hiding spaces to avoid a world police for ~12 years? Are you light skinned and willing to ~~pretend, I mean~~ profess you love jesus?

Trump has repeatedly stated that he will be a dictator on day one, even when given outs. He promised multiple times that he had voting under control in the future and his voters will not need to vote again. He's promising major retribution against enemies and massive deportations. Does anyone expect that to be done in 1 day?

He's named a person currently under investigation for interactions involving underage women and drugs, for Attorney General. He has trouble admitting to wrongs, what makes you think he will abdicate any power on day 2, day 239, or day 1461?

What makes you think that the military will act any differently from the first several years of the nazis or their final years?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

Every interpretation of contrarian says you are against the popular opinion.

Non-native speaker here so wait a second, doesn't contrarian mean against the popular opinion for the sake of it, not because you reasoned that the popular opinion is wrong? That's what I intended when I said contrarian at least. Anyway let me rephrase: Trump's appointments will (I hope at least) hamper long-term US goals in the region, which viewed completely on its own is a good thing because, well... I probably don't need to explain that part. That single good thing, of course, doesn't outweigh the host of problems created by a Trump-controlled military, including the death and destruction he'll inflict along the way, but it's something I guess.

[-] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Contrarian means against the popular opinion. The word doesn't define motive, only the position.

I'm less optimistic on this overall. It took a long time to weaken other war driven countries.

The US has been in conflict (starting or managing) for almost its entire existence.

As noted, being less skilled doesn't slow the murder - I fully expect that the murder will increase and be less precise.

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