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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Probably depends on how bad things get economically. The EU has been sucked dry by the three years of proxy war in Ukraine at this point. This winter is expected to be colder than the last two which could lead to a new energy crisis. That could create conditions for Germany to decide they want to reopen the remaining pipeline and try to patch things up with Russia and China.

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

We said that the last 2 times and it didn't happen, I think unless something changes germany will remain committed to atlanticism. And the guy leading the party that's leading the polls is a huge atlanticist

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

What's changing is that German economy is unravelling. The atlanticist mainstream might squeak by in these elections, but the trends are quickly building against them. It's also worth noting that it's not just Germany. France, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania, Hungary, are all starting to turn against atlanticism as well.

The past three years have been really hard on people, and it's becoming increasingly clear that it was all for nothing. Russia is winning the war, and there's nothing the west can do about it. People are starting to realize they were being lied to and that their future has been stolen from them.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Germany. France, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania, Hungary, are all starting to turn against atlanticism as well.

adding austria to scribble a dick on the map to spite europe

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Afd is gaining a lot of sympathies amongst the working class due to the fact they allegedly have “an investor” that will restore nordstream 2 and make the economy good again.

But they hate china a lot. Only BSW may be pro-china to some extent. Die Linke destroyed themselves by embracing radlibery and focusing on electability.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think the first step for Germany has to be to gain some measure of sovereignty, which means overthrowing the current US puppet regime. Once that happens, then Germany will end up being integrated economically with the east over time because it's the only thing that makes sense. The current state of things is not sustainable because it doesn't make sense economically.

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hell its needs a proper revolution because most of the upper class has ties to the the us, german old money literally study and live in the UK for periods of time.

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