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Daylighting, which involves removing parked cars from around crosswalks in order to improve visibility and just wiped out about 14,000 street parking spaces, has proved especially controversial.

“If someone doesn’t die because of it, we will never know, while the living have to suffer,” Nina Geneson Otis wrote in an email to The Standard. The real estate broker said daylighting is the kind of policy that makes Democrats lose elections.

Others say the city’s actions remove responsibility from pedestrians to look out for their own safety. “A pedestrian can do anything, and be irresponsible, and no harm will come to them?” Brandi said, describing the policies as “idiot-proof.”

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[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

Those hills severely limit visibility on so many of those crosswalks, and if you’re driving up one of them, and the sun is in your eyes, I don’t know how you would approach an intersection safely.

If you can't see where you're going then your speed should be as low as possible. I'm not from SF so maybe it already exists, but ideally there would be traffic calming measures such as lane narrowing, speed bumps, etc and so going faster than around 20 mph or so would feel very unnatural.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but those hills are so steep that you've got to give it a ton of gas just to get up them. Like, imagine laying on the gas super hard just to keep yourself going above 20. As you crest the hill, the sun hits your eyes, blinding you to the person that was invisible to you until a millisecond ago, who is crossing against the light at exactly the time you're trying to lay off the gas so you don't start accelerating.

Don't get me wrong, I support every measure listed in the article, and I think the people who want them repealed because they find them inconvenient are assholes. If Daylighting makes it too hard to park, well, maybe don't drive; it's an extremely walkable city with a good public transit system anyway. But this is the only city I've ever been to where, when I hear drivers say, "pedestrians need do better," I think, "well, that's not just entitlement, everyone really does need act responsibly here, even pedestrians."

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sounds like a safety issue to me -- you can let off the gas as you get to the crest of the hill and slow down, until you can see that the coast is clear. You could slow to a crawl, even down shift if necessary in a standard.

If you can't do that at 20 mph in an urban area where people walk, then 20 mph is too fast.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Manual transmissions were better for this stuff too. You can pick a lower gear with more torque to give you power to get up the hill without high speed. Most automatic transmissions can let you force a specific gear as well but many people don't know how to use that function of their car, which can partially be blamed on poor driver education.

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

In the automatics I've driven, the car automatically downshifts if it needs more power to climb the hill -- do some automatics just stall out?

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Sometimes you really gotta ask it to downshift by pushing the pedal down then most follow through with high speed cause they are worried to lose it. Way easier to just start in a good gear.

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

For me if I let up on the gas, it will slow down, and then downshift to be able to maintain the slower speed on the hill.

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