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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by Sunny@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/15995282

Real unfortunate news for GrapheneOS users as Revolut has decided to ban the use of 'non-google' approved OSes. This is currently being posted about and updated by GrahpeneOS over at Bluesky for those who want to follow it more closely.

Edit: had to change the title, originally it said Uber too but I cannot find back to the source of ether that's true or not..

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[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well that's bad. I've been using revolut for years now.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a new bank that's operating under european law?

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago

Perhaps WISE? You can use the web page unlike Revolut.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 4 days ago

Wise isn't a bank, but it does appear to be the best option in EUR

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

Wise has a banking license in Belgium much like Revolut has one in Lithuania.

Wise is missing some cool things Revolut has like metal cards that require you to use an expensive plan, or the ability to buy stocks and crypto.

What Wise has instead, is the ability to have both a REAL American AND European bank account in the same app, which you can instantly transfer money between. Revolut doesn't give you an American bank account if you're in Europe, idk if they give you an European bank account if you're in the US. But Wise has both.

Why is this so important? Well let's say you're in Europe, you land a side gig doing a bit of work for a big US corporation you're connected to through your old job. You've got your rate negotiated, everything's sweet. And then they hit you with the question: "Are you able to take ACH payments?"

Now you have to google what an ACH payment is. Then you have to find out how to be able to receive them. Turns out these are internal to the US. Banks outside of the US just don't accept them, because they're not part of the system. But wait! Wise actually gives you an actual US bank account complete with routing numbers and everything. In your name, not in some proxy's name either.

Here's a list of currencies/banking systems you can get local payments in, without going international

Yes I sound like an advertisement at this point, but it's ridiculous how useful this gets if you need to move money internationally. I didn't get all the hype before I needed it, but when I did, it fit my use case like a glove.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have wise accounts both as a US entity and a EU entity. They give you EU IBAN and US ACH accounts no matter which side of the Atlantic you're registering from.

They're the best bank ive found in the EU too, but I didn't think they were a bank. Its important because a US not-a-bank just collapsed and a lot of people lost their life savings. The not-a-bank assured customers that their money was safe because it was being stored in actual bank's bank accounts. This would have been true, but the not-a-bank misplaced almost all their funds and, turns out, they weren't in their partners' bank accounts. Whoops.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

Turns out it's not an actual bank in the EU either, they just give you an IBAN number and everything.

However, funds in EU are still insured at 20k per account and since they're not a bank, they can't be giving out subprime mortgages using your money like banks do, they have to keep it as safe as possible.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah but if they're not regulated like s bank then they could do the same thing and "misplace" funds so they're not stored in their partners banks, and you then have 0 insurance, right?

[-] childOfMagenta@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago
[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Most banks restrict custom ROM and root access devices for security purposes. Same with MFA apps. I get it. From an IT security perspective, restrictions on software compatibility limit the number of failure points. Even if you find a custom OS that is more secure as an OS, it is installed through opening up your device to security risk and there is no real requirement for you to close up that security risk afterward. My company has made the same choice to restrict supported platforms for our services.

McDonald's app restricting the OS is probably some security decision they made because it's more secure even when they probably don't need it though.

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

It's not your job to secure my device. It's your job to provide the service I'm paying you for.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I never said it was. It's also not the developers job to provide you the service on the platform of your choice. It's the developers job to protect the companies servers and data. It's the company's job to provide you the service and it's your job to decide to use it or not. And it sounds like you don't like the means of service provision. So don't use it. Easy enough.

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