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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by Sunny@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/15995282

Real unfortunate news for GrapheneOS users as Revolut has decided to ban the use of 'non-google' approved OSes. This is currently being posted about and updated by GrahpeneOS over at Bluesky for those who want to follow it more closely.

Edit: had to change the title, originally it said Uber too but I cannot find back to the source of ether that's true or not..

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[-] floreana@poliverso.org 3 points 1 day ago

@Sunny
Gatekeeprs of wealth sticking together against the ambition for freedom of poorer people?
Oh, color me surprised. 🙄

(I want to de-Google step by step, thanks for the heads up).

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago

I don't think it's a coincidence that the shittiest companies are those, who enforce Google's broken and monopolistic "Play Integrity" API. Revolut has connections to Russia, McDonalds supports the Israeli genocide in Palestine and Authy has always just been a massive piece of shit, not even allowing users to export their TOTP seeds. These are three companies I would NEVER even consider using anyway.

And "Play Integrity" API actually does NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING for your security as an end user.
You use an outdated, unpatched Android version with multiple severe, publicly known exploits on an insecure device?
Google doesn't give a single fuck.
You use the newest version of Android with all the patches applied on Google's own hardware, with a locked boot loader and a hardened operating system?
That's not allowed by the "Play Integrity" API.
It's only purpose is to serve Google's monopolistic business interests.

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[-] ouch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Google has ruined Android by closing it up.

EU needs to step in and force Google to open it up.

While at it, go for Apple's monopoly as well.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 342 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This makes me want to use GrapheneOS more. If the dataminers don't want you to use it then it must be doing something right.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Authy has been utter garbage for a long time and if you ever needed a reason to migrate away then now is as good as ever.

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[-] Roopappy@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Why would anyone load an app from McDonalds? You want to give them elevated access to your most personal data for a few dollars of coupons?

What are they taking from you that's worth more than the discounts they are giving you? Because they are definitely making a profit, or they wouldn't be doing it.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 days ago

We are definitely in the era where people think discounts before user privacy. I bet most of people downloading the Mcdonald app do it exactly because of cheeper prices and easy of access.

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 96 points 4 days ago

Odd timing considering I've banned McDonalds, Revolut and Authy from my phone.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 84 points 4 days ago

Just to be clear, they banned all custom roms, not only graphene.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's crazy how they can just do illegal things because they have so much money...

Do I own my phone or not??

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[-] Anivia@feddit.org 57 points 4 days ago

Time to switch away from Auth I guess. Not even using GrapheneOS cause I have a Samsung phone, but this is not acceptable

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago
[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 25 points 3 days ago
[-] Numenor@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

He makes a solid point

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 22 points 3 days ago

This sounds like an antitrust legal problem...

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

The GrapheneOS team is already talking to regulators: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/112539378681400395

[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 134 points 4 days ago

This is very bad news, because this means any app that wants your data could do the same.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 129 points 4 days ago

On the other hand, it makes it easy to find which apps aren't to be trusted with your data.

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[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 42 points 4 days ago
[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 83 points 4 days ago

McDonalds? Uber?

They both have fully functioning webapps btw.

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[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 100 points 4 days ago

Fuck both of these companies. Never used McDicks app in the first place. Spyware bullshit.

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[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 45 points 4 days ago

OK McDonald's, I will not use your most cost effective ordering method. I guess I will just have to order my 10 individually custom cheeseburgers at the counter instead. I might have to have e the order read back, and change my mind about a few burgers.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 110 points 4 days ago

As a former employee... That does nothing. Crazies that spend 15 min to order some fries were common.

If you go at rush hour it can be annoying to the employee and other customers, but at the end of the day nobody will remember and you would have spent 20 min and 10 dollars (which is 9 dollars material profit for MacDonald).

Just. Don't. Go. To. Macdonald's.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago

Just. Don’t. Go. To. Macdonald’s.

Best advice on the menu

[-] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 85 points 4 days ago

Just stop eating at McDonald's.

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[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 46 points 4 days ago

This surprises me because McDonald's app is hands down the worst app I've ever encountered in the history of all Android apps.

It's is sluggish, ignores touches/taps half the time, doesn't adhere to Android best practices for flow, crashes a lot, errors a lot, etc.

But OK McDonald's. Fuck off.

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[-] kata_ton_daimona@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Small OT: In the article it's mentioned also the app "IO" (italian for the english word "I"). There are also other important italian apps not working without play services. The serious thing is that that apps are almost mandatory to do the ordinary public administration bureaucracy. We can say that the italian state forces its citizens to use a smartphone with Google Play Services installed. This is no sense.

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[-] zako@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago

the problem here is not the banks or apps, the problem is Google Play Integrity API, which is supposed to enforce to run apps in secured phones and it is used to ban secured ROMs such as GrapheneOS and it allows to run apps on outdated phones without security patches.

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 122 points 4 days ago

which is supposed to enforce to run apps in secured phones

The point of the Google Play Integrity API is to ensure that the user is not in control of their phone, but that one of a small number of megacorps are in control.

Can the user pull their data out of apps? Not acceptable. Can the user access the app file itself? Not acceptable. Can the user modify apps? Not acceptable.

Basically it ensures that the user has no control over their own computing.

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[-] qaz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Oh great, I guess I'll have to change my payment info for everything now. Fantastic.

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