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A more technical explanation for this is that LLMs split words into tokens (whole words or parts of words) and then use the "distance" between tokens (how frequently they follow each other) to generate the next most likely token. This results in them not knowing what is actually in a token, just what it's related to. There is a version of ChatGPT called o1 which should be able to solve this by putting its output back into itself and some more parsing that mitigates this problem, but it costs like $30/mo.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago

I didn't see that. That's weird. Oddly enough, 4o-mini outperformed o1 on this front.

prompt: c o u n t How many states have the letter 'p' in their namesLet's list all the U.S. states and check how many contain the letter "p" in their names:

  1. Alabama
  2. Alaska
  3. Arizona
  4. Arkansas
  5. California
  6. Colorado
  7. Connecticut
  8. Delaware
  9. Florida
  10. Georgia
  11. Hawaii
  12. Idaho
  13. Illinois
  14. Indiana
  15. Iowa
  16. Kansas
  17. Kentucky
  18. Louisiana
  19. Maine
  20. Maryland
  21. Massachusetts
  22. Michigan
  23. Minnesota
  24. Mississippi
  25. Missouri
  26. Montana
  27. Nebraska
  28. Nevada
  29. New Hampshire ✔️
  30. New Jersey
  31. New Mexico
  32. New York
  33. North Carolina
  34. North Dakota
  35. Ohio
  36. Oklahoma
  37. Oregon
  38. Pennsylvania ✔️
  39. Rhode Island
  40. South Carolina
  41. South Dakota
  42. Tennessee
  43. Texas
  44. Utah
  45. Vermont
  46. Virginia
  47. Washington
  48. West Virginia
  49. Wisconsin
  50. Wyoming

The U.S. states that contain the letter "p" in their names are:

  • Pennsylvania
  • Mississippi
  • New Hampshire

So, there are 3 states with the letter "p" in their names.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

llama (both 4.7 and 70, mistral types oklahoma and iowa) prints for some reason iowa has p in it, lmao.

llama3.1:7b returns:

Only one state, Pennsylvania (#38), contains the letter "p"

mistral:7b returns:

Counting these states, we have 15 states with the letter "p" in their names. This list excludes territories and excludes Alaska because it does not use "The" at the beginning of its official name. [after counting 33 states]

Gemma2:2b returns: Here are the states that contain the letter "P" in their names:

Pennsylvania 
Rhode Island  (this is a tricky one, as it's often forgotten!)

This is generally assessing a fish's ability to climb a tree, though. The point of LLMs isn't character recognition, so it doesn't make much sense to assess LLMs on their ability to do this.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago

It's mainly trolling to show they don't have cognition or anything resembling reasoning or understanding really. it's some people (and mine) personal windmills, their ability is bullshit fast enough to mimic a person, not "intelligence"

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