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Understanding the Rebellion in Syria (www.counterpunch.org)

submitted 6 months ago by Darkerseid@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Netanyahu said Israel would only act against perceived threats, such as Iran and Hezbollah’s forces and influence, explaining, “We haven’t had a problem with the Assad regime, for 40 years not a single bullet was fired on the Golan Heights.”

So I guess we're just going to ignore Netanyahu taking credit for this almost immediately after the news broke?

A few hours after the announcement of the fall of the regime, the Israeli occupation army took control of the Syrian side of Mount Hermon in the Golan Heights in order to prevent rebels from taking it over the area on Sunday. Earlier, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had ordered the Israeli occupation army to “take control” of the Golan buffer zone and “adjacent strategic positions.”

Uh huh. Sure. You mean the same rebels that you're running defence for in this interview? I'm sure this has nothing to do with the Zionist entity furthering their occupation with the eventual goal of a greater pissrael.

Alongside ignoring any agency to local Syrian actors, the main problem with the argument promoted by the supporters of the so-called “Axis of Resistance” is their assumption that the liberation of Palestine will come from above, from these states or other forces, regardless of their reactionary and authoritarian nature, and their neoliberal economic policies.

Wow, are you trying to present as a leftist and an ally of Palestine after making excuses for further Zionist occupation? Wtf kind of dogshit ideology is this?

In fact, rather than advancing the struggle for the liberation of Palestine, the Middle East’s authoritarian and despotic states, whether aligned with the West or opposed to it, have repeatedly betrayed the Palestinians and even repressed them.

Lmfao. Dawg, once again, the people you're running defence for have literally stated that the love pissrael.

Moreover, the campists ignore the fact that Iran and Syria’s main objectives are not the liberation of Palestine but preservation of their states and their economic and geopolitical interests.

It's pretty fucking difficult to assist in the liberation of Palestine when your state is overthrown and replaced with a bunch or reactionary Salafi terrorists.

Syria, in particular, as Netanyahu has made abundantly clear in the quote I just cited, has not lifted a finger against Israel for decades.

Regurgitating Zionist talking points. This is no better than the Western MSM.

For its part, Iran has rhetorically supported the Palestinian cause and funded Hamas. But since October 7, 2023, its main goal has been to improve its standing in the region so as to be in the best position for future political and economic negotiations with the U.S. Iran wishes to guarantee its political and security interests and therefore has been keen to avoid any direct war with Israel.

Works cited crack pipe meme.

I think I need to stop...

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago

...I didn't stop

Its main geopolitical objective in relation to the Palestinians is not to liberate them, but to use them as leverage, particularly in its relations with the United States.

What relations? Iran and the burger empire don't have relations.

Iran’s passive response to Israel’s assassination of Nasrallah, decimation of Hezbollah’s cadres, and its brutal war against Lebanon demonstrate that its first priority is protecting itself and its interests. It was not willing to sacrifice these and come to the defense of its key non-state ally.

No. Reactionaries such as yourself just have no understanding of pragmatism.

On top of that the regime has repeatedly repressed Palestinians in Syria, including the killing of several thousands of them since 2011, laying waste to the Yarmouk refugee camp in Damascus.

Yarmouk happened due to conflict with ISIS and other extremist forces. A direct result of Amerikkkan meddling in the region. It was not repression by the regime. You're a sack of shit spinster.

Given this history, it is a mistake for the Palestine solidarity movement to defend and align itself with imperialist or sub-imperialist states that put their interests before solidarity with Palestine, compete for geopolitical gain, and exploit their countries’ workers and resources.

Everything I don't like is imperialism!

But it makes no sense to look reactionary regional powers and other imperialist states like Russia or China as allies of Palestine or its solidarity movement. There is simply no evidence to substantiate that position. To choose one imperialism over another is to guarantee the stability of the capitalist system and the exploitation of popular classes. Similarly, to support authoritarian and despotic regimes in pursuit of the objective of liberating Palestine is not only morally wrong but also has proved itself a failed strategy.

There will never be a perfect enough movement for you so therefore Palestinians must suffer indefinitely, right?

The main task of the Palestine solidarity movement, particularly in the West, is to denounce the complicit role of our ruling classes in supporting not only the racist settler-colonial apartheid state of Israel and its genocidal war against the Palestinians, but also Israel’s attacks on other countries in the region such as Lebanon. The movement must pressure those ruling classes to break off any political, economic, and military relations with Tel Aviv.

Oh great. So it's the white man's burden to liberate Palestine. You racist, idealist, piece of shit.

Only the self-organization of popular classes fighting for democratic and progressive demands will create that space and open a path toward actual liberation.

Class reductionism. Sorry, but the primary contradiction in West Asia is Amerikkkan imperialism.

To advance such demands, that progressive bloc will have to build and rebuild popular organizations from unions to feminist organizations, community organizations, and national structures to bring them together.

The "progressive block" in this conflict is the regime that was just toppled. And it wasn't very progressive. So uh, good luck with all that...

There's some more nonsense about "Arab chauvinism" against Rojava and then some both-sidesing of Rojava, but I don't have enough knowledge of this to add anything useful.

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Wow, are you trying to present as a leftist and an ally of Palestine after making excuses for further Zionist occupation? Wtf kind of dogshit ideology is this?

standard imperial core Trotskyism