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This is a Dengist community in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This community is not ironic. We are Marxists-Leninists.

This community is for posts about Marxism and geopolitics (including shitposts to some extent). Serious posts can be posted here or in /c/GenZhou. Reactionary or ultra-leftist cringe posts belong in /c/shitreactionariessay or /c/shitultrassay respectively.

We have a Matrix homeserver and a Matrix space. See this thread for more information. If you believe the server may be down, check the status on status.elara.ws.

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Welcome again to everybody. Make yourself at home. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is the weekly discussion thread.

Matrix homeserver and space
Theory discussion group on /c/theory@lemmygrad.ml
Find theory on ProleWiki, marxists.org, Anna's Archive, libgen

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If you don't know what Matrix is

Matrix is a protocol for real-time communication implemented by various applications ("clients") -- the official one is Element for Linux, macOS, Windows, Android, and iOS), but there are many others, e.g. those listed here. It's also federated, like Lemmy. To use a Matrix client, you need to make a Matrix account at one of the Matrix homeservers (similar to how you can make an account on lemmygrad.ml or lemmy.ml but still access both of them). We have our own Matrix homeserver at genzedong.xyz, and you don't need an email address to register an account there.

A Matrix space is a collection of rooms (equivalent to Discord channels) focused on various topics.

The space is intended for pro-AES Marxists-Leninists, although new Marxists may also be accepted depending on their vetting answers.

To join the space, you need to first create a Matrix account. If you want to create an account on another server, you can likely register within your Matrix client of choice. If you want to create an account on genzedong.xyz, you have to use this form (intended to prevent spam accounts).

Once you have an account, join #rules:genzedong.xyz and read the rules. Then, join #vetting-questions:genzedong.xyz and read the questions. Finally, join #vetting-answers:genzedong.xyz and answer the vetting questions there. Usually, you'll be accepted within a few hours if there are no issues with your answers.

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Breaking | In an urgent and important press statement, Gaza Health Ministry reports and appeals to the world:

⭕️Unprecedented numbers of starved civilians of all ages are arriving at emergency departments in severe exhaustion and fatigue.

⭕️We warn that hundreds of severely emaciated Palestinians are at imminent risk of death due to hunger and their bodies’ inability to endure any longer.

Gaza Update Summary (July 16th - July 19th, 2025)

🚨 The past four days have been defined by a dual crisis of escalating IOF massacres and a catastrophic, deepening famine. IOF operations systematically targeted civilians in designated "safe zones" and at aid distribution points, particularly in Khan Younis and Rafah, while the north faced relentless demolition. We saw the famine's death toll rise, sparking popular protests against aid hoarders as the humanitarian situation collapsed completely.

Wednesday, July 16th: The slaughter of civilians was marked by a horrific massacre at an American aid distribution center in Rafah, where over 20 martyrs ascended due to suffocation and gas, including those on a "pre-approved list." This pattern was repeated throughout the day, targeting the displaced and hungry in tents in Mawasi Khan Younis and Nusseirat. Shelters were not spared, as the IOF bombed the Abu Helou school in Bureij, resulting in 4 martyrs, and struck the historic Latin Church in Gaza City, resulting in 3 martyrs from the Christian community. In Jabalia, the entire Shahab famil (father, mother, and their five daughters) was annihilated under the rubble of their home. 94 martyrs ascended and over 370 were wounded. 26 aid seekers were martyred as well.

Thursday, July 17th: The crisis of starvation reached a terrifying new peak, with children like Zain Al-Dremeili ascending due to malnutrition and reports of people collapsing from hunger in the streets. The bombardment escalated on Khan Younis, with airstrikes, artillery, and demolitions. IOF drones targeted tents in Mawasi. New evacuation orders were issued in Jabalia, and a strike resulted in 8 martyrs near Tawam roundabout who were protecting an aid convoy. At least 50 martyrs ascended on Thursday.

Friday, July 18th: The deepening famine ignited a "Revolution of the Hungry", with citizens storming merchants' warehouses in search food, only to be met with IOF drone fire. The IOF's campaign of genomicde continued with the massacre of the Abu Sahloul family in Khan Younis, where at least 8 were martyred under the rubble of their home. The famine claimed another life as the infant Sanaa Al-Lahham ascended, while in Deir al-Balah, 5 more were martyred in the chaos of an aid delivery. Further, the IOF continued to bomb tents, such as in Mawasi. A strike in Jabalia Al-Nazla claimed 5 more martyrs, while a bombing of a school saw two more. Another 50 martyrs on Friday.

Saturday, July 19th: Between the famine and bombing, another day of horrific massacres against entire families. We saw the annihilation of the Aql family in Nusseirat, where a single strike resulted in 12 martyrs, mostly women and children. The slaughter of the hungry reached a new low with over 60 martyrs ascending, including 35 aid seekers killed by IOF fire near the "Netzarim" axis. The famine continued to claim children's lives, including Joad Al-Anqar and Yahya Al-Najjar, as the IOF expanded its operations to the sea, raiding the Gaza beach and abducting several fishermen. Northern Gaza saw intense bombing in Sheikh Radwan and Jabalia, as well as martyrs killed while attempting to reach their homes. Today, over 116 martyrs have ascended so far, including 38 aid seekers.

Over 310 martyrs ascended in the last four days, amidst international and global silence despite calls for escalation and action. #GazaSummary

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I'm sure we have all heard that quote about the goal of fascists being to waste your time. While normally it is expected of us to engage in good faith and to attempt to educate those who are ignorant, even if they come off as standoffish, there comes a point where we can see the exception in the making. We will say, "this person means to anger us and nothing more". And in these situations, there is not much more to do except to ridicule them and wait for the inevitable ban, praise our diligent moderators.

Except that even these snarky responses or attempted debunks are wasting our time. To be sure, we may inadvertently educate lurkers, which is good. However, there comes a certain point when it is clear explaining further will have no positive consequences for any involved party except perhaps the time-wasting fascist.

This is where I propose the use of the soyjak. This is not a joke. There is something beautiful in the succinctness of depicting your opponent as an angry, hysterical, frothing-at-the-mouth soyjak; there is an absurdity in it all that pulls back the layers of smugness from the fascist and reveals them for the clown they are. What clever response will they have, when they are depicted as the virgin soyboy and us as the enlightened chad?

It may seem lazy, to be sure, but laziness is subjective. We must use all the tools we have at our disposal; despite negative sentiments surrounding ai it is nonetheless a great tool for us, especially our more tech-oriented comrades. For the more absurdist among us, the soyjak is our weapon. It is a lazy answer to a lazy question; it is fighting fire with fire. This is our way of telling them that we will not be playing their games.

bonus: Chinese brainrot ideologies tierlist. I made this the day of that post but never got around to uploading until now.

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The Clone Economy (lemmygrad.ml)
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My alarm clock buzzes with the familiar tone of the 90s. It's very retro, very in right now. I was able to splurge on the sound pack after I made a little bit extra one night and I don't regret any of it.

I open my phone and check the app. "Good morning Bria," it greets me as always. My name is actually Brian but for some reason the app glitches on the welcome screen and the N always gets cut off. "Your clone made you $17.68 while you were asleep."

"Nice," I mutter still half-asleep. The app gives me a whole page of line graphs and stats comparing my clone's performance over the past week and month, and even sends me a graph of my clone's performance hour by hour overnight. I pay for the stats package but honestly sometimes I feel like I don't need it, I can tell if his performance was above the usual or not. But I like having access to the stats, yknow? I don't like seeing that button greyed out.

I get up thinking about what I'll be able to afford with those 17 dollars and try not to think about how much will be left after paying the service fees and taxes. If I can get even 10 dollars though I'm happy. Before I forget, I send a thumbs up to my clone over the app. Gotta let him know he did a good job.

I make myself some coffee, paying for it with my phone's NFC function. I love that my machine does that. It's like having fresh barista-brewed coffee every morning; the machine does everything, I just pay for the cup. Of course I still have to fill the machine with coffee beans and water, but so does any coffee store. It just captures the experience so well at half the cost, what's not to like?

"Hey so, how much did your clone make last night?" Sarah asks me during our 10AM break. I look up from my phone. "17 whole dollars, and 68 cents" I'm proudly beaming. "Oh damn!" she can't believe it. I knew it. "Mine only made me 12 bucks... I don't know if I'll be able to afford rent this month at this rate." Well, sucks to sucks. What can I say. Your clone is a reflection of you, it's literally a clone. If it's not performing well then that's kind of your own fault.

But I have to keep up appearances if I want to make it to Executive Associate Manager for Internal Priorities (Temporary, Non-Voting) one day, so I just smile and nod. I'm sure the camera in the break room will pick that up and the AI will record it in my file. "Yeah, that's a bummer" I tell her. "Sorry, I gotta go back to work" I excuse myself from the room. I don't want her bad vibes rubbing off on me or my clone.

At around lunch time the Senior Director of Operational Excellence and Cross-Functional Integrity (permanent, non-voting) knocks on my office door. "Hey, you got a minute?" he asks as he steps into my office anyway. "Heard your clone made 17 dollars last night" he says with a hint of admiration. "That's exactly the kind of forward thinking strategical implementation we value here. Keep it up" he gives me a thumbs up, and I give him one back. I don't know why I just did that.

And with that he leaves my office, but I get a ping soon after on our Firecamp chat that I just got a thumbs up there too. Nice. This will definitely get the higher ups' attention. Sarah instantly messages me, of course. "Oh wow, you got a thumbs up from the Senior Director of Operational Excellence and Cross-Functional Integrity (permanent, non-voting)?? Lucky you!!". "Ikr" I just reply. If she and her clone spent more time working and less time chatting on the Firecamp app maybe she'd get thumbs ups too. I don't need her negative energy in my life.

And with that another productive day at work is done. I hurry on home not because I have anything particular planned but because I can't wait to go to sleep and wake up in the morning seeing how much money my clone made for me overnight.

I love these clones. Some people weren't on board when the tech was announced but what were they gonna do? Just keep complaining online? In the end they got on board with the program like everyone else when the app released. The tech is pretty cool. You send a buccal sample and this company creates a clone of yourself. Then the clone works at night while you sleep. It's made passive income available for everyone. Now you don't need to start a dropshipping scam or sell online courses in bullshittery to people, you just get a clone made and literally sleep on it. And in the morning you make some extra income. What's not to like? I mean, it's literally free money. People stopped complaining pretty quickly once they saw the money in their bank account. Pretty soon everyone got on board and I heard the company is now global and worth trillions.

That evening, I browse the company's subreddit for a while before going to sleep to see if anyone else gets it. I start to see some weird topics though. 'Company accused of not having achieved clone technology', or 'Company takes back "Clones on Mars" statement: "it was premature"'. Bullshit. These are just overpaid journalists jealous that they haven't thought of this first, and they're taking their frustration out on the company now. "My clone made me $19 dollars last night," one user says. "That's all I care about." I let him know I agree with him. Damn. 19 whole dollars. I kinda wish my clone got off its ass and reached those kinds of numbers too.

"How do you think the clones work?" Sarah asks at break time the next morning. "Huh?" I look up from my phone. "I mean," she continues, "They clock in when we clock out, right? But like, what happens after that?" I sigh. She's always like this, and that's why she's not getting the promotions. I pull up the app -- $16.41 overnight by the way -- and tap on the big question mark button. It's there for a reason. "I mean, it says right there they do our job but at night and then deactivate. I leave my clone some instructions in a text file and then he logs in at night and continues my job."

"Yeah I know," she's not letting this go. "But what do they do when we wake up? Do they just... go to sleep? Can they even do that?"

"I dunno. But hey, I'd rather have the money than not have it, y'know?"

Mark cuts in. He's a real downer -- I feel like everyone here is. They just can't accept a good thing when they're given it. "I kinda wish we'd make more money on our clones. 13 dollars a night is... not a whole lot" he takes a sip of coffee as Sarah agrees with him.

"Yeah but the tech is still young. We're the early adopters," I tell them. They just don't get it. "In a few years it'll be much better, we may even have like, an army of clones instead of just one each. The company has already announced some of these plans coming soon, and they're actually letting you purchase bonds in their company now which are directly tied to your clone's productivity in value so if your clone is more productive your stock proportionally increases in value. You can get in for as low as $500 so that's like, 1 month of your clone working and you doing nothing."

"I guess," Mark says. "I still wish they'd increase the payout" he grumbles and quickly leaves the break room with his coffee in hand before I can finish my sentence. Typical.

"I don't think they're gonna put clones on Mars," Megan chimes in. Whatever. I gotta go back to work. I leave Sarah and Megan to debate the ethics of clone labor instead of doing their work. This is not gonna reflect well on their quarterly evaluations.

That night I open the subreddit again. I feel like they're the only people that get me. "Can we get the negative posts under control?" one user asks the mods. "This is my safe space and I don't like all the negativity here. It feels like some people here just want to propagandize and demonize the company that's done so much good for the world. It's annoying." I upvote him.

I refresh the page and see a topic with 0 upvotes and 679 comments. It's titled "clone company exposed as exploiting slave labor". More jealousy. I open the thread to have a laugh at the trolls. They're saying stuff like the company is using workers in India and Bangladesh and only saying they're clones. Whatever, it's just petty rumors. It doesn't make any sense if you think about it. One thread says "I opened my computer at work this morning and it says the files were edited by Ramesh. My name is Liam." People in the comments are debating whether the post is true or just rage bait. I close the post after a while. I can't wait to wake up and see how much money I made overnight while these trolls are still raging and doing nothing productive.

"Did you see the video?" Sarah asks at lunch break. "Which one?" I ask. "Some guy filmed a video of himself logging into a client computer, and he explains his job is to pretend he's this guy and do his job at night." "That doesn't sound right," I cut back. "It's probably someone trying to make a quick buck on the controversy."

"I guess..." Sarah says after a moment of staring at her phone. "But it seems pretty real, look." she shoves the phone in my face with the video playing. And yeah, it's a guy in some building in India showing how he logs into this guy's computer in America when it's night here and does his job for him. He says he has a master's degree in mathematics and the guy he works for just sends emails most of the time.

"What does that prove?" I ask. "I mean, we've never actually seen the clones, have we?" Sarah retorts. "How do we know they're even real?" I sigh and open the FAQ page on the app again. "Says right here their technology is based on decades-proven academic papers and a new cutting-edge in-house process to-" "Yeah but that doesn't mean anything," Sarah cuts me off. "I think they're probably just hiring people in India to do our jobs at night and saying they're clones."

"I mean. Does it matter? At the end of the day I make money while I sleep, y'know?"

Over the next few days more accusations come out and the company is forced to reply to them. I see them coming on TV to explain their process. This kind of witch hunt is exhausting. Some people really have nothing better to do. Even at work I can't escape it, this is all my coworkers talk about.

I stop following along eventually. It's kind of a mess. More videos come out of people in India complaining about the conditions. They say they get paid 2 dollars an hour while the company pockets 35. Okay, I have to admit this caught my attention. 35 dollars while I only make 15 a night on average? That's a lot of money if they're only providing the service. It got so big that apparently an investigation was opened into the company's practices, for false advertising.

"Says here the company is going to review their payment scheme," Sarah reads from a headline. "They're going to change the payout model which should increase revenue by 10% for most users. Some people are saying they're only doing this to deflect criticism though."

"10 percent? Damn, that's the biggest increase yet!" I can barely contain my excitement. That's huge! "Yeah, I know!" Sarah happily expresses. "Imagine all the things I'll be able to afford with this!" We both agree. That night on reddit, I se we're not the only ones excited for the new payout model. People are already talking about what they'll do with the money.

The company isn't lying. It takes a couple days but after that, my charts start showing a clear 9.7% increase in my payouts. Love it.

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Whatever flaws modern China may have, nothing will ever diminish how historic of an achievement this is. What China managed to do in going from 1949 to what it is today is nothing short of a miracle.

I'm making this post because quite frankly, at this point, i just don't care anymore for the constant nitpicking and purity testing that i have to constantly read and hear from western leftists.

I just want this for the entire global south. If it means that a people who have suffered so much in their history get to finally live like human beings with dignity, happiness and prosperity, i don't give a fuck that they aren't "doing socialism right".

Call them nationalists, call them revisionists, call them liberals, call them whatever names you like, fact is one and a half billion people are now living in a modern, developed, stable, peaceful and increasingly prosperous society.

Long live the Communist Party of China and long live the People's Republic!

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Since people always ask who the guy on the left is:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisuke_Nanba

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I know china doesn't need them (and probably doesn't necessarily want them either) but I was reading on western imperialism in china (not that I was ignorant of the concept before) and I dont think I ever conceptualized how much wealth the west got from china without ever paying a cent back. The forced loans in "war reparations" alone is probably in the millions

This is more a thought experiment than a genuine like, policy proposal or anything

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I'm trying to find a map that I saw a long time ago here or in Hexbear in which countries were painted according to how much they would gain or lose if wealth (can't recall if it was money, I think it was) was distributed perfectly for every person in the world. I remember that European countries would lose some money but African countries greatly benefited, like more than 10x the wealth or something.

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You might have seen this article circulating. This is from 972 mag, a zionist rag (that pretends to be on the left). The byline specifies "Chinese-made drones" are being used by the IOF to kill people in Palestine.

Except reading the article they clearly, black-on-white state that:

  1. The first batch of drones were bought by Statesians and donated to the IOF (lol, as if 3 billion $$$ a year isn't enough for them)
  2. Later, the US started producing these drones -- the Autel EVO -- in the US and donating them to the IOF.

The drones are also modified by the IOF to have a grenade mechanism attached, like in Ukraine. These are photography drones, they're being used for war because they're good quality otherwise.

In August 2024, China passed restrictions on the sale of civilian drones for military purposes and Autel themselves (this you can find in a reference linked in the 972 article) is opposed to this misuse of their tech but they can't really do anything about it if the US keeps producing them.

The real story here is the US can't compete with chinese drones so they steal the tech and produce knock-offs. How the times have changed.

972's byline is doubly weird because it's wrong. "Weaponizing Chinese tech" would be more accurate, I'd have problems with that but not as much. "Chinese-made drones" implies they are made in China or by China, which is not true.

This is a bit of a rant but I need comrades to stop falling for anti-AES propaganda everytime it happens. People instantly jumped on the "China is selling weapons to enemies of communism!" point. No. China does not sell weapons to the IOF, their tech is being misused. They don't sell weapons to the Philippines or provide them, they don't provide weapons to the US, they don't provide weapons to Ukraine, they don't provide weapons to anyone you've heard them provide weapons too.

I'll tell you who provides weapons though. The UK. The US. France. They find new ways to kill people in atrocious ways, and then send this experimental tech to the IOF to be tested on Palestinians. They have missiles that fire sharp steel blades upon impact cutting through everything it crosses in a 10 meter radius. They have bombs that deliver compound shrapnel that leaves almost no entry sign, but will shatter your spine completely.

Oooh but no, you can modify a photography drone by 3d printing a component, this means China must stop producing commercial quadcopters and leave the tech solely in the hands of the US!!! I am being very dialectical 🤓

Don't lose sight of what's actually important here. Stop looking towards what China does (which it doesn't do anyway) and look to your own countries instead. They're the ones enabling genocides.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/8474021

A good series! I suggest watching the other episodes. Not too long and gets right down to the point.

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