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[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 23 minutes ago

Sunshine spills over the streets, tracing this city’s edges with warmth 🇰🇵

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Far right infighting:

Belgian defence minister, a Flemish nationalist, refused to say Vive la Belgique (Long live Belgium) on live tv today as he considers himself, you know, a Flemish nationalist. But now that he is the Defence Minister that might be a a bit of a stupid thing to do lol.

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 12 minutes ago

I don't understand seperatists who lead the country they're trying to seperate from

[–] Oppo@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you all have nice week :D

[–] AYJANIBRAHIMOV@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

You too comrade oppo 🫡

[–] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Kneecap is genuinely a fantastic time, I've got the feeling that their and Bob Vylans acts at Glastonbury are likely going down in history as one of the most important sets in punk music.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah they are legit and their music is great too. I like to listen to it at the gym.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

132 Palestinians killed yesterday, of which 18 starved to death.

The only thing Elias Rodriguez did wrong was not holding those two hostage and demanding aid to be let in.

[–] AYJANIBRAHIMOV@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 hours ago
[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 hours ago

Due to two public holidays I have had two consecutive weekends of three days and I gotta say it is a superior work-life balance. I had time to visit fam one day, one day to clean the house and now one day to relax. There is just so much more time to relax after a week of working. It should at least be the standard everywhere.

[–] felhfeltetel@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

What's up with the increasing amounts of videos on social media, talking about how China is so unscientific regarding it's way of treating people, medicines and hospitals being full of pseudoscientific bs, people having no access to "actual scientific, evidence based" medical treatment?

I can see why traditonal Chinese medicine, acupuncture, fire treatment, things like this are hated on and are considered scams, doing people wrong in need, and overall lack evidence (?), but I don't think this'd be the norm everywhere, even if this would actually be the state of practiced medicine (?). This just sound racist, or made up even. How the hell could they take care of that many people with pseudoscientific methods? I don't know what these videos are on about.

Do we have articles or something to repell these accusations? Or anyone able to talk a bit about these methods? I can not imagine these methods being standard in 2025, sounds like something you find on the black market or some kind of private practitioner. I guess it can also simply be just projection, when we are having people doing BBL with motor oils and concrete, and thousands of people in my area making their dicks exploding with having injected too much Vaseline in it over time.

So, let's talk about it guys a bit, if possible.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Im sure they mix some traditionsl elements into it and it's fine, i heard from some mexicans talking about their experiences in healthcare in China and one mentioned getting treated for s broken foot finger or something and being surprised about the treatment but it worked nonetheless, i don't exactly remember what the treatment was but it worked i guess, also remember the guy saying that the doctor told him "im not treating your symptoms, but directly fixing the problem". This is an anecdote so it should be taken with s grain of salt.

I imagine that with the scale of China, doctors are fundamentally trained differently than in western nations and have to be more efficient with medicine in contrast. There is also the inherent incentive in western nations for doctors to prescribe more drugs in order to make more profit, even though it may not be needed. I personally have an issue with medicine in the US because a relative got a > $1000 bill for literally just filling a form in the hospital, they didnt even get treated since they left because the hospital was to goddamn slow.

Ultimately, many drug compounds come from stuff that can be naturally found, so why should one take a pill of X compound if it was proven to be found in a tea of X herb? Having it in a pill form doesn't make it more "scientific".

[–] redline@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I wonder sometimes if Western info-warfare strategy is shifting to "flooding the zone", producing such an avalanche of dubious quality media on China that no accurate picture of successes can be easily accessed by the Western lay audiences

A Western "great firewall" may take on a quite different form to what we have seen in China in the last few decades for example, given the aesthetic concessions required to maintain illusions of liberalism in the popular consciousness

I expect some mixture of legalism, as we observe regarding proscribed organisations in the UK, and systematic covert as well as overt online misinformation

This doesn't directly address your points on traditional medicine, but I certainly agree that it is a worthwhile topic

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I wonder sometimes if Western info-warfare strategy is shifting to “flooding the zone”

It's been part of the strategy for a long time, and not just for China. Bourgeois media inundates people with baseless or highly distorted claims (often very time-consuming to disprove, and affects collective consciousness over time), and both social media sites and search engines promote this content while censoring reliable sources