Lol, Im the exact opposite. Showering isn't torture, obviously [and also very necessary, obviously. I take one every day], but I dont really enjoy the process of it. I do enjoy the feeling after I shower though
King_Simp
I genuinely forgot about that quote, but the irony of it is very interesting. A garden is a small curation of usually visually appealing plants that wouldn't survive without external conscious input, and are usually not able to contribute much beyond artisnal sustinance for 1-4 people. Meanwhile the jungle is a place with extreme amounts of biodiversity and exoticism, and many garden plants can originate from said jungles. They are also exploited for their wood and other resources. Idk, someone better at analogies can probably expand on this.
I feel like there's a deeper issue than just "we haven't had a citizen Kane yet." I mean, theres been plenty of games with amazing writing on the level of other pieces of genuine art [disco elysium my beloved {Okay I know DE is basically a book, but still}, or Pathologic]
I think the actual problem is trying to mix that story telling with the inherent interactibility and the necessary accommodations that requires. Pathologic is an extremely well made story, and many compare it to Dostoevsky's works. Unfortunately they also compare it to Dostoevsky in that it's literal torture to play. Books, plays, movies, etc. Are all designed to be story first, because that's what keeps you wanting to read the book or watch the actors perform. But you keep playing the video game because the video game is fun. Not saying fun and good art are mutually exclusive, just that it's a harder balancing act than normal that is partially why it's still not as respected like movies and TV. Although its definitely gotten better over the years.
I'm not asking for a creation tutorial under every meme. I'm literally just asking for the model/service as a basic thing you should put on there so people dont have to ask and the author doesnt have to answer, unless they want more in depth explanations, like you would with normal art. If you want me to treat ai art like any other art, then let me treat it with the same rules that I treat any other art with.
Also oc notices aren't just for promotion. It's a very basic question to ask "who made this." So you can, yknow, see if they make/have made more and can enjoy more. In order to, yknow, see if they will make or have made more. So, just putting the author/oc answers that question without it being asked.
Youre just purposefully obfuscating and flanderizing the point quam absurdum, and I don't feel like any more conversation on this topic is going to be productive.
Honestly im shocked Gramsci is popular with bourgeois socialist types. I mean, I really can't see how you could apply most, if not all, of his ideas without being not only a Marxist, but a Leninist too.
Im not going to litigate this because of a personal opinion on ai [i dont really care], but I think this argument misses material quality of the admirable aspects of "museum level" work [to use your terms] in agitprop. I mean obviously a random meme on lemmy doesn't need to be held to that standard, but the agitprop made by the USSR is iconic and survives to this day, even after it's intended audience is dead and outside of even the original language many of these were made in, for a reason.
Reminds me of
"The democratic-bureaucratic system has given rise to a great mass of functions which are not all justified by the social necessities of production, though they are justified by the political necessities of the dominant fundamental group. Hence Loria’s[13] conception of the unproductive “worker” (but unproductive in relation to whom and to what mode of production?), a conception which could in part be justified if one takes account of the fact that these masses exploit their position to take for themselves a large cut out of the national income. "
-Antonio Gramsci, Prison Notebooks, "The intellectuals."
- Sorry I didn't find the few comments where he does say so. I didn't see it in these 3 dozen comments on this post so I guess that's on me, even though it doesn't actually prove what i said wrong.
2.Common courtesy. A simple "this art was generated using x program" in the post would have prevented this exchange we're having now. And isn't he expending the same, if not more, "brain power" replying to these comments as he would have if he had simply put it in the description of the post?
- If he had drawn the art himself then I would have the same problem with him not marking it as "oc" for clarity sake and then getting mad at someone who says "hey you should say it's oc in the post."
Really? I'm not wholly opposed to ai art but, yknow, that's just basic common sense to label ai generated things as ai generated. I mean, China even requires it on their social media [https://cadeproject.org/updates/china-enforces-new-ai-content-identification-rules-starting-today/].
Plus, if you want people to use ai for things like this, it'd be nice to know what model you used. You're just being disrespectful for the sake of being disrespectful.
Moralintern/Mercenaries from Disco Elysium
Edit: Actually scratch the Mercenaries. They're "just" racist murderers. The moralintern, in propagating a murderous system they will defend with nuclear weapons which is slowly but surely destroying the world is much more terrifyingly relevant. Although it's so relevant they might be disqualified from the list for literally just being capitalists
Geez I'm getting stressed just reading this. I mean, that's probably good for the party and all, but somehow I can feel the pressure an ocean away.
I guess that's a fair thought.