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[–] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 week ago (110 children)

It's pretty weird to see self-described leftists pearl clutching about technology while you're out here churning out effective agitprop. I guess you're supposed to spend multiple hours of labor for every meme? Can't utilize dead labor since it's a product of capitalism.

Too worried about the aesthetics of free-range, artisanal consumption.

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[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago

I liked it.

[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wonder if people were this up in arms when the printing press came out 😂😂😂😂

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol there was the same moral panic when photography first appeared, the original slop 🤣 https://daily.jstor.org/when-photography-was-not-art/

[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the same kind of sentiment lol! Always some abstract property that we assign to art that somehow elevates it above whatever it was before 💀 it's always "it feels like" when it comes to criticism of these new technologies

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 week ago

History repeating as a farce and all that.

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[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly we need to stop calling LLMs/Image generators AI because it actually causes so much misunderstanding about what that technology actually is - AI usually conjures up images of a terminator/sky-net endtimes.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 week ago

yeah these are just tools humans use to do things, it's automation and nothing more

[–] xenautika@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Oh gosh what a contentious discussion. I used to be anti AI and am still reluctant about it. But for reasons i admit that are not practical. And when it comes to practability.. art has always been both practical, and ideal. The first cave paintings are of practical use, they serve as guideposts and acts of communication. However, their depiction— of humans playing, dancing with animals— are ideal. They set intentions to reverence, even though the practical reality of humans and animals is predator and prey. They give a moment of awe and imagining to other possibilities. Worship is implored, and through this culture an interconnection cosmology forms.. humans arent just predator, they are receiever/giver. This translates to practical understanding of cycles and relationships both important and integral to hunter-gatherers.

At a more personal level, I recently had a partial finger amputation. I'm a musician of 30 years. You can imagine my grief. I felt ruined, that my art could never be seen again. Yet now i have even more drive as an artist. I use electronic instruments and incidental sounds which perform themselves. I do the orchestration, composition and conducting. I, having an ideal objective, am letting go of my decades of training as mandatory for that practical expression.

Maybe I can never play music the way i could ever again. But I am still an artist and still I express. Whether its ability or accessibility aids, an artist articulates the material as expression in form. A brush stroke or stable diffusion are tools, just as a violin or algorithmic synth program are tools, to express their ideals in practical, material ways.

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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

With all due respect commands. This is the most pathetic, utterly asinine struggle session I have ever seen in a leftist space. Hexbear ain't got shit on the level of mouth foaming hate that some of you are spewing. The fact that someone could come in and post a meme made with AI and some of you all will rabidly attack your so called "comrades" over it to these extent I am seeing in here really ought to cause some of you to sit back and contemplate of you really should even call yourself a comrade.

This shit is utterly disgraceful.

On side note, I thought it was a pretty cool little meme. Can I get my mandatory 3 or 4 downvotes for not spewing hate fueled vitriol about it now?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

tbf if it was hexbear someone would have threatened to kill another with a tire iron or something

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago

The upside is some people have had their minds changed about this subject over time, which makes me think it's worth it at least going through it. The downside is every time we have to deal with uncharacteristic levels of vitriol.

It's a good example of how one can believe in the theory, but still have issues seeing how the culture they're immersed in impacts them. Like how common talking points for anti go in the direction of definitions about art, but don't take into account how art has been defined by capitalist culture over time; the premise of it starts from the status quo and proceeds from there, rather than trying to work out a communist view of art first and then looking at how "AI" impacts it. I suspect this is because anti talking points have largely come from people who are not remotely in the realm of marxism and are basically just trying to bludgeon in whatever way they think will work to keep the status quo going as is.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago

I'm starting to realize that AI generated memes are a great way to expose reactionaries who are LARPing at being Marxists.

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