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This has been a long debate that I had with @multitotal@lemmygrad.ml and I wish to expose this here to add different points of view and enrich the discussion.

Context from my discussion with Multitotal -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6440034/5642022

This was a discussion made by multitotal and other people -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6447386/5645801

To start, I wish to lay the background of Syria with some sources from my own investigation.

Before the Civil War on 2011

Syria's economy was worth $68 billion, ranking 68th globally. It was a middle-income economy, on par with Paraguay and Slovenia, and boasted a diverse economic structure with low inflation.

Agriculture, industry, retail, and tourism were pillars of its stability. In 2009, agriculture contributed 22 percent to the economy, industry and excavation 25 percent, retail 23 percent and tourism 12 percent.

Source -> https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2024-12-12/Syria-s-fragile-future-can-its-economy-rise-from-the-chaos--1zhdSS3Ci76/index.html

Toll of the war

The civil war obliterated this diversity. Agricultural output has plummeted by at least 50 percent, according to the World Food Program. Infrastructure vital to the industrial sector, once concentrated in Aleppo and Homs, has been reduced to rubble.

Oil production, a crucial export for Syria, has collapsed from 380,000 barrels per day in 2010 to 40,000 barrels per day today - a drop of nearly 90 percent.

Tourism, once a burgeoning sector drawing millions of visitors annually to historic sites like Palmyra, has all but disappeared.

Meanwhile, poverty is endemic. The UN estimates that over 90 percent of Syrians live below the poverty line, with more than half facing food insecurity. Inflation is rampant, and the Syrian pound, battered by years of war, has lost over 99 percent of its value since 2011.

How did it begin?

The creation of the Syrian Democratic Forces ->

Source -> https://disser.spbu.ru/files/2023/disser_en_yurk.pdf

Even with the US support, has the material reality improved for the Kurds?

With this, evidence suggests that it has not improved:

Source -> https://disser.spbu.ru/files/2023/disser_en_yurk.pdf

Kurds map 2018 ->

Evidence of US plunder of Syrian oil

Source -> https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202209/1274786.shtml

Now, with all of this context, I came to the following conclusion:

Supporting rojava or any other imperialist faction is the same as supporting the continuation of imperialist plunder of Syria. I prefer to advocate for the removal of the imperialist and for the unity of all of the people of Syria.

TLDR I don't support any imperialist funded faction but Syrian liberation from the imperialists. This means Syrian unity and not balkanization.

Hope to read all of your thoughts on this!!

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[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

…what alternative Syrian political group presently exists that you believe simultaneously represents “Syrian unity” and “liberation from the imperialists”?

Very good question! That's where the Russians and the remaining loyalist factions come into play(starting from here all of my thoughts here are speculation on my part). Russia will defend their bases in Syria including the access to the sea where the Tartus and Latakia bases are currently located and this might give a breathing room to the remaining loyalists to form guerrillas. Maybe, this is just cope from my part but anything can happen.

While the US proxies fight each other, this faction will grow in strength and in due time they might gain public support where syrians start to yearn for Al Assad again similarly to what happened in Libya with Gaddafi and Iraq with Saddam.

Also, Maher Al-Assad is regrouping in Iraq:

Major General Maher al-Assad, former commander of the 4th Armored Division and younger brother of Bashar al-Assad, has vowed to liberate Siria🇸🇾 from the al-Julani regime with the help of Shiite military groups iraquíes🇮🇶.

Speaking bluntly, Maher stated, “Terrorist groups cannot conquer a country. It is a black spot in our nation's history when soldiers are shot at in the streets. I wonder how many kilometers Israel occupied during my brother's rule! Now, during his 'rule', the Israeli army has almost reached Damascus. All that is left of the once great Syrian army are ruins and destroyed military equipment. The Syrian people will not accept this.”

Source for the remaining loyalists -> https://t.me/wofnonchat/1845183 and https://news.cgtn.com/news/2024-12-10/Shifting-dynamics-in-Syria-highlight-a-nation-on-the-brink-of-change-1zdmY5neOR2/p.html

Syria's fragmentation poses significant challenges for the Middle East. The country's territorial divisions – HTS dominance in the west, SDF control in the east, and remnants of Assad loyalists along the coast – reflect a broader trend of disintegration. This new reality could spur similar movements in neighboring countries, destabilizing the region further.

Source for Maher al-Assad (it's in Spanish)> https://x.com/CFBotonesNegros/status/1867671378415300748

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

It’s definitely good to learn of at least some remaining Syrian anti-imperialist resistance organizing. Hopefully the new reality (HTS rule, worsening material conditions, Turkish and Zionist occupation) and the lack of a unifying “common enemy” in Assad will galvanize more Syrians into recognizing the empire’s role in their declining living standards and uniting in opposition to the “new boss”.

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

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