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[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Nobody's telling you what you can and can't say. They're telling you that what you said is in bad taste, and youre telling them to stop saying that.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

LOL. I'm pretty sure saying "that is just homophobia, by the way" is exactly trying to tell people what they can and can't say.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I disagree. If someone came up to me and said "Buenos dias! Donde estas el bano?" and I was like "that is Spanish, by the way", I have simply made an observation and have not implied that they aren't allowed to speak Spanish.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

LOL. And you seriously don't see the difference between "hey that's homophobic" and someone speaking a different language and pointing that out?

Wow. Ok then.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 hours ago

No. "That's homophobic" and "That's Spanish" are simply statements of fact. It's left up to the listener whether they should continue being homophobic or speaking Spanish after it's been pointed out. It sounds like you've chosen to double down on homophobia. Not the choice I'd make, but you do you. Nobodys stopping you. No es mi problema.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

Honestly? You don't make any sense to me. Hopefully you make sense to you.

It sounds like you’ve chosen to double down on homophobia.

I'm gay. If a black person uses the N word in a joke are you as presumably Not A Black Person going to instantly assume they are racist? Or will you stop to ask why?

I'm not saying a black person can't be racist or a gay person can't be offensive to other people or even have latent homophobia. But as simplistic as it sounds that's literally the basic argument here. Many straight people saying "hey thar that's homophobic" and one gay person at least saying "nah, that's funny" and being downvoted to hell.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

But as simplistic as it sounds that's literally the basic argument here.

The basic argument of this conversation, between the two of us, was that you claimed people were censoring you, and I pointed out that making observations or even judgement calls about what you said doesn't prevent you from saying it. Absolutely no one is stopping you from saying whatever you want. I don't think anyone even tried to. I sure didn't.

If you want to turn it into "well I'm gay so I can say homophobic things without judgement, like black people saying the n-word" you'll have to do it alone because I have no interest in participating in that discussion.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago

It's not homophobic you nitwit.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

Calling people you don't like gay as an insult isn't homophobic?

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Perhaps the words don't mean what you think they mean.

This is not calling them gay as an insult. If it were saying "they are so gay" meaning "they are so bad" then yes. But this is drawing parallels between their behavior and that of gay people in an ironical way in order to highlight their hypocrisy. And frankly to taunt them.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago

So calling people gay in order to taunt them isn't homophobic

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Either you are being disingenuous or you are just not very bright. Either way, have a nice day.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

I just don't think "hurry durr they're gay for each other" should be used as an insult, and that doing so is homophobic. Have fun on 4chan.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago
[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Uh oh, the person who's been claiming that being gay gives them a free pass to be homophobic for the last 2 hours is asking about my sexuality. I can imagine the "gotcha" you're waiting to spew at me if I say no.

I'm not going to answer that. It shouldn't matter. Bigotry is bigotry regardless of who's doing it, uncle ruckus. And everyone should be calling it out when they see it.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Bigotry is bigotry regardless of who’s doing it

Who gets to decide what is bigotry?

Do you get to tell the subject of said suspected bigotry that they should feel offended?

Do you get to tell black people they are not allowed to use the N word?

Words are power. You better make damned sure you aren't stealing.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago

Who gets to decide what is bigotry?

Societal norms

Do you get to tell the subject of said suspected bigotry that they should feel offended?

I told you no such thing. I said that you were being homophobic. The listener decides if they want to be offended or not. Judging by this thread, a bunch of people were offended. Good job I guess?

Do you get to tell black people they are not allowed to use the N word?

Nobody told you you weren't allowed to do anything. You started whining that they were when someone pointed out your homophobia, but nobody ever said "don't say that" or "you're not allowed to say that" or anything like that.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Societal norms

You really haven't thought this through, have you?

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