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“I am a leftist who hates Russia and China”
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"Attitudes" of your neighbours don't make you an imperialist power. Imperialism is defined on whether you use military violence or threats to extract wealth from other nations. It isn't just some "vibe" or defined on evil mustache twirling.
Europe is a part of the anglo-american empire. France literally still has colonies Africa. They are imperialists and as such their opinion is worth less than shit.
Most of the nations that Russia borders have very positive relations with them.
In 2014 more than half of ukrainians preferred trade agreements with Russia over the EU... which is why the usa sponsored the miadan coup even after the Elected president agreed to early elections.
I fully fully agree that the west, including Britian, France, America, Israel, Germany are imperialist powers that have done far more bad then good in this world. But Russia isn't that far off from the same imperialist thinking ways whether now with it's invasion in Ukraine and land grabs in georgie and having Belarus (still not as bad as america, not even remotely). I think my main point was china i actually do like. They might value life a little less but they don't just invade people for shit they want and instead play a smarter and often more mutually beneficial game then couping anyone who says no to you. I truly hope America falls into the worse kind of civil war that makes the Roman empire collapse look dignified
Where is your evidence? How do you know what "Russian thinking" is? This is just orientalism. Look at the actions of Russia not your crystal ball or phrenology chart.
Russia didn't just invade ukraine because they wanted the land or resources. Russia wanted a neutral neighbour as a buffer between itself and the imperialists. They dont want Ukrainian land or resources. Russia already had more of everything that ukraine has. They spent decades telling nato that eastern expansion was an existential threat. Russia spent 9 years trying to get ukraine and nato to uphold negotiated signed peace deals. Those are not imperialist methods. The war in ukraine was started by imperialism from nato. Resisting imperialism is anti-imperialist.
Russia's involvement in South Ossetia is anti-imperialist too. Ossetia was granted independence from the Georgian SSR by the USSR. When the USSR was dismantled Georgia tried to re-annex Ossetia against the Ossetian people's will. Georgia's claims over Ossetia are imperialist in nature. It is not a land grab. Russia has floated the idea of offering Ossetia membership in the Russian federation but not without a referendum and consent of the people. Russia does have troops in Ossetia but they were invited by the Ossetians.
Russia is by no means a socialist nation, reactionary ideas abound and there is legitimate concern that they could become imperialists if the USA were out of the picture BUT... right now the reality is they are opposing imperialism. Russia's close ties with China and the fact that they will likely never be able to match China mean any imperialist dreams that Russians might have will be just dreams.
WTF is this? thats just mad levels of racist, more orientalism, and again not based on material reality. If China doesn't value life why have they raised the average life expectancy faster than every other nation in history? If they don't value life why are they responsible for installing more green energy than the rest of the western world combined several years in a row?
Kill the racist in your brain. Its poisoning your thinking. Stop telling yourself you understand the "thinking" of entire nations. Look at their actions.
Honestly China sucks at anti-imperialism. They don't further imperialism or profit from it directly but they also don't do much to slow it down. They don't confront the west on their imperialism. They barely finger waged the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. They learned the wrong lesson from their mistake supporting Pol Pot and now they don't intervene on behalf of anyone even socialists in their back yard. They seem to think the best way forward is to wait the imperialists out but in the meantime there are 5 billion people crushed under the imperialist boot. Its a reactive plan with no guarantees and a certain ethical dubiousness.
There's no point talking to you when your first paragraph is incorrect. So what was the Crimea operation? South ossentia. Transistria? There was a time post soviet Russia was on a good path, but it's literally under a former KGB lead dictatorship of a man who wants to reunify the USSR or atleast bring the same sort of glory. I'm all for nuances and I'm very nuances about Russia compared the west who see Russia=bad but you're on the same equally dumb fallacy west=bad Russia=saint. Both are nuanced and both are pretty bad, even nations I love there's a lot of bad, from china to turkey to Scotland. It's good you realise the awful propoganda of the west but you just fell into another kind of propoganda and you aren't any better at discerning propaganda than a maga or a typical western neoliberal
Crimea: Seceeded from Ukraine as per its right as autonomous republic within Ukraine. The voted to join Russia.
South Ossetia: The region of Ossetia was split between Russia and Georgia, and the south not exactly being keen on being part of Georgia. Both Georgia and Russia kept peacekeeping forces there to prevent escalation of this situation into civil war. A few years back Georgia escalated and opened fire on the Russian forces. Russia crushed Georgia.
Transnistria: The region seceeded, a local soviet division, which would later be integrated into the Russian armed forces, aided the secessionists.
No such statement exists.
Which no one here does. People are just disagreeing with your outlandish points. There's lots to critique with Russia (its anti-communism, its Olligarchs, its treatment of the LGBTQ+ people, its nationalism etc.), yet your points all are the most batshit western allegations. Not a peep about the many valid points.