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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by JoMiran@lemmy.ml to c/luigimangione@lemmy.world
 

EDIT: The FBI has since corrected themselves and are now treating it as an act of terror.

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[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I'm not on the medias / courts side here, but what the killer of Brian Thompson did is literally terrorism. (Unlawful) political violence with the goal of pushing an ideology or gaining sympathy for once cause or causing fear and panic. The killcount and wether or not you agree with the message doesn't matter. There don't even have to be deaths. The killdozer rampage was an act of domestic terrorism.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The murder happened before the social media outpouring. Might be hard to prove that was his aim. OTOH, we have his manifesto which should go down like a lead zeppelin defending the terrorism bit.

In any case, New York has to charge terrorism to nail him with first-degree murder. It's a weird law, but that's why they did it.

But under New York law, a first-degree murder charge only applies to a narrow list of aggravating circumstances, including when the victim is a judge, a police officer or a first responder, or when the killing involves a murder-for-hire or an intent to commit terrorism, legal experts told CNN.

[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Good point I thought about that, but I personally think it's very unlikely that the reason was something else. If the killer is indeed Luigi Mangione (wich we don't know and we should stop acting like he is. We are just harming him) the case is pretty clear.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

BS. Ceo murder was self defense, insurance denying claims is terrorism

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely just like American attack on Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam were acts of terrorism; like the attacks of Israel on West Bank, Gaza, Syria; Russian attack on Ukraine are acts of terrorism.

Or is it that if the government does it, it is justified and if an individual kills a despicable human being it is an act of terrorism.

[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything about justified or nor justified. But yes. If the government does it it's usually not terrorism because it's based in law. That doesn't make murder better. But it's simply by definition not terrorism.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Law is an excuse given to governments doing acts of terrorism.