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When I found out that Navalny wasn't against the invasion of Ukraine I stopped caring about what happened to him.
Fuck Putin, fuck Navalny & fuck Russia in general.
Uh that seems like a pretty absolutist world view. You can simultaneously think that the invasion of Ukraine is terrible, and care that a Russian man is being jailed for nearly twenty years by a kangaroo court.
He's a Russian politician, I could care less about what happens to him, especially after reading his previous views on Crimea.
Ah so you do care at least a little.
I hate these Word Crimes!
Wait, that's not a sing lyric...
I’m not calling you a liar, but maybe misinformed.
I believe the person that you're replying to is talking about how Navalny is inherently a Russian Nationalist and had previously expressed support for the invasion of Ukraine. Also, of course he's going to rail against the guy who's unjustly imprisoning him and shit all over Putin's invasion.
He supported the 2014 invasion, not the 2022 invasion. So he's still garbage. He just stinks less.
He's against it now because it's showing Russia as the alcoholic morons they are.
He said all that stuff in court right after the start of the war. Like, there are transcripts of it.
I think him being concerned with the economics of a war rather than the ethics of it are telling. However here is a quote from Navalny in March. Seems like he is somewhat on a middle ground. Not sure what to think of him.
And in 2014 he said:
Difficult to feel sympathetic towards someone who suggests annexed land land can be taken at will. But also hard to deny the punishments he faces from Putin are extremely heavy handed. Russia really needs a revolution that puts in place people who actually want to serve the people and become a productive democracy.
Revolutions never do that, because they’re started by wannabe-dictators or the military.
He can still be much better than Putin and support Crimea 2014. Not a good option, but a less bad one, and one that is dangerous to Putin.
I think Navalny shouldn't be in jail and is better than Putin. But he's still a piece of Russian garbage.
While the second quote is more telling, the first one is misleading. The only reason Ukraine has a shot at taking Crimea back is because Russia invaded.
There was just no hope for Ukraine to retake it by force, and Russia under putin would never give it back voluntarily. Even not under Putin, the opinion would be such that this would be a difficult politically speaking. That's what Navalny was commenting on with this quote.
Do you have a source?
At least a quick search on my side does not bring up anything in support of your statement.
Edited post.
Also,
https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches
Navalny isn’t a good “replacement” for Putin IMO.
Yeah
He's better than Putin in that a turd sandwich is better than a firehose full of raw sewage to the face
But honestly, if someone put him in power, I'm 50/50 over whether he would just become the next Russian dictator
50/50? I feel like there's a 90% chance they will be and I think that's a conservative estimate.