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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean get that but that does not make it easier. IRC is about as basic as you get usage wise. A decent client should store endpoints and credentials. Honestly seems like the major nuisance point its a plus as its not like social media in that you want contributors to be somewhat serious about a project and not just hanging out at ones as it meets their fancy.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IRC is about as basic as you get usage wise

And that is precisely the problem. The majority of people you get are those who like absolute basics and that for sure is not the majority. It makes it more exclusive.

you want contributors to be somewhat serious about a project and not just hanging out at ones as it meets their fancy

IMO, you want people to be passionate about your project. Treating a project a job isn't going to attract more people, but less.

Frankly, IRC and mailinglists epitomise the toxic and exclusive nerd culture that linux is known for and still has trouble shaking. "No, I don't want more users, eternal september", "RTFM noob", "no, I will not adapt, you adapt", etc. . Not all change is good, but the same goes for "but it's always been done this way".

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -1 points 2 months ago

mailing lists and irc are for coders generally not users. the job thing is just laughable. there is no clock or requirement around time. i fine with this level of "toxicity". oh irc and email. your soooo toxic with your developers.