Also, is any of the people actually a leftist movement? As another recent Hexbear post shows, the DSA is a joke, and the Democrats aren't even pretending to be left anymore.

[–] Ivysaur@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It is unfortunate that the author mentioned the DSA yes but like, PSL and any other fucking orgs are not really any better. There are no orgs addressing this contradiction of access, as is the crux of the article. I am not convinced any of you actually read it, lol

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Although the article you provided uses the DSA and unspecified "unions" as examples, the article does not clarify explicitly whether or not other leftist orgs are masking or not.

I was simply asking a question as I'm not intimately familiar with what these organizations are doing. It's unfortunate to hear from your response that PSL and others aren't doing better, in a time when just wearing a simple cloth mask is literally more than 99% of people around us.

P.S. Honest question, you said in another comment that you were surprised by "negative" responses to the article, but if you're counting my comment above in them, were you expecting people here to be happy about people not masking?!?

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So because the democrats and the DSA and similar orgs aren’t sufficiently left that means what exactly? Like I get it, I’m not a fan of DSA or the DNC either. That’s putting it charitably. But the article is basically a plea for people to wear a mask and how masking directly benefits organizing.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not contradicting any of that. My original intent was to try to find out if maybe actual leftists were better, but I've already received the impression that they are few and far between

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure what you mean by “actual leftists” and by “better.”

I’m assuming you mean if there’s any socialist or Marxist or organizations that require masking for their in-person indoors organizing. From my understanding talking and listening to people in disability advocacy in the US, there aren’t too many. There are disability groups that require masking for in-person stuff, but calling them socialist or whatever isn’t very accurate.

My personal experience with explicitly socialist organizations in my area is that masking isn’t considered. I’ve brought it up, but there’s been push back. I don’t understand why to be honest. I get better consideration for masking from the liberal/progressive organizations in my area. They’re lip service for sure, but it’s better than a self-described leftist telling me that masking will drive people away from their org.

Edit: I’m just realizing you might think I’m casting you the “self-described leftist” in that last sentence. I’m not. That was a very real interaction I had with an organizer in the real world. Not that the geometric bear website isn’t the real world, but you know what I mean.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago

I think you understood, and don't worry, I get it