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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think plastic waste is specific to capitalism.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No, but the ultra wealthy having the wealthy necessary to bribe politicians, buy all our media, and push endless disinformation with zero accountability are all a direct result of capitalism.

Publically owner companies, like the USPS, are extremely transparent with how they spend money and they are held to far higher ethical standards than private companies are.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah social democracy is good but it doesn't make plastic waste disappear, neither would fascism, it's nonsequitur.

Plastic is cheap. It would be as cheap for a communism as it is a capitalism.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, the 1st and 3rd worst offenders for plastic per capita are administrative regions of China (Macau and Hong Kong) https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/plastic-pollution-by-country

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They're also a capitalism, though, so yeah.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be taxed for the irreparable harm on the environment and required to compensate fully all damage to nature if it were not for lobbying, a demonic ritual at the center of capitalism. Almost no other nation allow open bribery and lawmaking to corporations in exchange for money. It's counter productive and immoral

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Again that is not really solving the problem by getting rid of capitalism, that's solving the problem by empowering democracy. The market system would still be capitalism even if lobbying were banned and fines were proportional.

[–] commander@lemmings.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Being in a capitalist society, we don't value a sustainable way of life.

Democracy has nothing to do with it. The lack of regulation is not a fault of democracy, as most citizens don't want these businesses to be regulated.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If democracy has nothing to do with your ideal governance, then congratulations you're a fascist/authoritarian.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 0 points 2 months ago

Who said anything about ideal governance?