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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 136 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

That's the thing... Everyone is acting like this guy totally do it.

From the start I had my doubts. Something felt off.

The only thing I know is that the government needs somebody to go to prison over this. They don't care who though. This is the culture of law enforcement, so not even specific to Luigi's case.

So we have to believe that they found this dude in fucking McDonald's with everything on him to get a conviction?!

But people are buying it... Sure he has support but they also believe that he is a the guy who committed the crime. And I am just not convinced.

Government behaviour around this case is suspect.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Feels too... Tidy really. Too much like something out of a movie. High profile murder. Killer found. Killer has clear motive and everything is found on or near the guy. Suspect makes statements that sound like something Killer would say in that position.

A line from the Running man comes to mind.

'Once again proving Might and Right are one and the same!'

In reference to a fake staged fight where State Sponsored Execution Reality TV kills a stunt double digitally made to look like the fugitive of the moment that has been making a mockery of The System. very neat. very tidy. Also, very Bullshit.

Edit: For the sake of records. I do believe he did it. I just find it too... tidy that everything was on hand to immediately bring a trial rather than months of legwork to ensure an air tight case.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Shooting someone in the middle of new York and then getting caught shortly after is basicallly an expected outcome

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

shortly after

doing a lot of heavy lifting here lol

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Imagine if it's actually not him, and the real guy was able to get away because nobody's looking any more.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That would be hilarious if he gets convicted and the next day another shooting happens with the same guy on camera again.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my God imagine if the new CEO gets executed the next day.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

If that is actually the case it would be really funny.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

he is-a the guy

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's entirely possible he's just not the criminal mastermind everyone thinks he is.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Certainly possible, but not proven.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

I believe they call it Security Theatre

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We don't know that. What we know is that the police searched him and his bag at the McDonalds, without properly reading him his Miranda rights before questioning him.

There is no indication that they found the gun or journal at this point in time.

They then arrested him, packed up his bag and took it to the station, where a subsequent search found the journal and gun.

Additionally, the Mayor and police chief released discovery evidence to an HBO documentary, but apparently not to Luigi's defense lawyers... completely tainting the potential jury pool while making it clear that the prosecution is withholding evidence from the defense.

There's a whole lot here that doesn't pass the smell test. If it's a frame up, why this guy in particular? And if it's not a frame up, why the obvious attempt to hide what they have from the defense?

i think that he likely did do it, but the FBI used an illegal surveillance technique to catch him - my guess is facial recognition through hacked security cameras. Exposing this technique would be contrary to the bureau's interests. I don't see any reason why Luigi would have the gun on him, or the journal after the shooting, so I'm really questioning the validity of that evidence - I mean it's murder 101 to get rid of the weapon, and unless you want to be caught, you don't carry around written evidence on your person saying "Hey, I'm gonna shoot this guy".

So yeah, there's a whole lot here that doesn't add up.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

People are too willing to accept the narrative.

Sure narrative is decent but state still has to prove that he actually did so they spent a lot of time litigating this in media which backfired spectacularly.

I am not sure how this trial can even be fair now between people supporting him while state overplayed its hand.

Where will they find this mythical impartial jury? Go back in time?

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

hE hAd tHe gUn oN hIm