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Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.

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[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Flat put lie anyone reading this thread can easily disprove by searching online.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Well then search and share it. I feel like you're some kind of shill that's payed to say these things. You have no technical understanding of how this works and you also won't share any sources whatsoever.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sealed sender does depend on some degree on trust, but with the architecture being designed for multi-server cloud and message passing with minimal logging, no single server knows both the sender and receiver when sealed sender is used, which also makes it harder for anybody trying to compromise the servers to collect that kind of metadata because you have to compromise a lot of them to have a good chance of deanonymizing your target. That's likely to be noisy.

Matrix also expects you to trust the server to a degree.

Got to go fully Tor/I2P secured P2P to avoid that.

[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you run your own Matrix server that is not an issue. Can you do the same on Signal? Short answer: NO

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You're still trusting the other user's server regarding a lot of metadata

[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's in my household and I use it to interact with family members. I'm sorry... are you attempting a strawman with me?

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

Most people use it to talk to people outside their household

[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Same with Signal. More so as it is centralized. So yeah, bad argument at best.