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[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a different view. he had two bad choices available and he chose the worse one.

he and the establishment Dems (hehem, Biden) as well as turncoats like Lieberman/Sinema/Machin/Fetterman who were inexplicably allowed to caucus with the party) are precisely why we're here today watching the rise of fascism and oligarchy. from failing to seat a supreme court justice under Obama, sabotaging Bernie (twice), fielding awful presidential candidate after candidate, allowing the military to expand endlessly, not codifying Roe (and doing nothing in response to it's overturning), to censoring Al Motherfucking Green...

the entire "opposition party" looks weak and disorganized and incapable of fighting every time a crisis arises. the party needs more progressive leadership and they need to realize that sometimes it's appropriate to break a few rules and take risks on big power plays. and forward popular plans that will actually energize the base.

these 'play it safe' supposedly harm reducing tactics are why we're here today. they had 8 years since 2016 to come up with ways to combat trumpism and the best they could do, after flopping on the election and then peacefully handing over power to a sociopath and a nazi billionaire - was... write an op ed in the New York Times.

I'm done with this group of shit heads. there are better senators who should be in charge. we need people getting mad and breaking shit, not another patronizing speech about having patience until the next midterm.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Patience for midterms? God no, we need to be supporting the DNC starting yesterday. There is no waiting for Midterms, we need to be contacting representatives, holding up signs, attending rallies, deep canvasing today.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we need to be supporting the DNC starting yesterday.

"We don't need to defund the cops! No! Fund them!" -Said by Biden right before Uvalde.

Same fucking vibe as what you just posted. Gross.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You've got 2 options. The choice is very very very clear if you actually care about any of the policies you claim to.

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

sorry but I think you're dead wrong. also, we have more than 2 options. we can choose to support the progressives who the DNC has been actively suppressing. that's a different conversation though.

supporting the DNC only happens when they start supporting The People. I'm old enough to have personally observed just how the national Democratic party operates and how corrupt, ineffectual, and apathetic they are when regular working class Americans need lasting structural changes. all the programs and progress they made has been undone with a half dozen supreme court nominations and a wave of a pen executive order.

they don't take adequate action and don't break rules to achieve goals, because they fundamentally misunderstand that sometimes obeying the rules (even in a democracy) is morally wrong. in a society rapidly spiraling towards fascism, they fail to recognize that "trust the system" actually means "just follow orders" and that's a very bad very dangerous thing.

it's not a group worthy of my support, not until they do better.

relevant links if you're at all interested in understanding my perspective better (or just follow my comments):

The Alt Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low (InnuendoStudios, YouTube)

The Rules Serve Us, We Do Not Serve Them (Parkrose Permaculture, YouTube)

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao, a whole digit percentage of people picked option 3 last time and got option 1, the worst option as a result.

If you want reform then vote blue no matter who. It is the only way out of this mess.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There actually are 'vote blue no matter who' people? How's ol' Chucky Schumer workin' out? Or Fetterman? Pelosi gonna come riding in on first light of the fifth day with the Rohirrim in tow? Jesus, this is just fucking sad. 40+ years of the Dems just idly allowing the repubs to shit all over everything, and your solution is to support them harder?

What's the color of the sky where you live? Are they accepting American refugees?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Chuck Schumer felt that he had to vote yes to continue operating the government even though REPUBLICANS wrote a bill that PUSHES US TOWARDS AUTHORITARIANISM.

I don't like Chuck Schumer but he is better than 100% of Republicans and this vote only occurred because of Republicans.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Schumer is a Republican. Actions vs words. The bill only passed because the golden children of the DNC voted to pass it.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You've displayed complete ignorance of policy stances and vote histories in the US Congress. Even if you did think Schumer was a right of center goon, he's absolutely incomparable with a Republican.

Even if every single representative was another Chuck Schumer, this kind of bill would never come to pass without at least 41 Republicans, 50 if reconciliation were an option.

Now, Chuck Schumer should be primaried. But if Chuck Schumer wins that Primary, then people in his district better be smart enough to vote for him, because at that point their won't be any better options.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I can see now I've been speaking with the common clay of the new West. My bad.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

Ad Hominem's your only response?